I pit the republican party for incredibly hypocrisy regarding taxes

Soros didn’t “devalue” Britains money, Britain did that, Soros simply bet every dime he had that they would. He was right, and made a bundle.

We know that’s what your side thinks, anyway. In fact, the guy your side sponsored made that comment at least 3 times publicly.

To be ruthlessly fair, there is nothing in any of Bricker’s comments or diatribes to suggest that he favors a dictatorship. Even if he believed it, which I very much doubt, he wouldn’t be dumb enough to say so.

And don’t make me do this again.

Yes, of course.

Except that the wealthy wield vastly more power, so when they want more money the propaganda machine we erroneously call the news sets about convincing the rest of us that we should struggle so they don’t have to. And we believe them.

I swear I didn’t used to be a pinko, but god damn if I’m not leaning that way more and more each year.

I can relate. Went door to door for Goldwater in '64, when Johnson was the “peace candidate”. And what a long, strange trip its been.

Do they, though? Yes, it’s possible they wield more influence “per-capita” than the population at large, but the general populace who aren’t wealthy wield much more power on an at-large basis (re: French Revolution). Nobody is going to be elected to power with just the rich voting for them.

You’re certainly right about that. So let me direct you back to my original post:

Yeah, it’s still kind of hyperbolic, but the core of it is true. Folks are being convinced that making the rich richer at their own expense is in fact in their best interests, and the way things are going they won’t realize it until Hoovervilles start popping up again.

40% of Americans believe in creationism and/or intelligent design. No more than 30% of any of the people on the PLANET hold the same beliefs regarding religion. And you want to claim that you’re right because you have popular support? The republican position of trickle-down economics is wrong in the same way that creationism and biblical literalism are wrong: it doesn’t mesh with reality very well. The republican party literally held the full faith and credit of the country hostage for political goals less than a month ago, and you’re going to claim that they’re anything less than destructive and populist?

Their policies over the last 10 years have:
-Weakened science and promoted religious pseudoscience in our schools
-Slashed taxes on the rich and dumped benefits for the poor
-Played partisan politics over the debt ceiling in a manner that led to OUR CREDIT RATING GETTING LOWERED
-Started wars whose root cause can, more or less, be summed up by “we want to give halliburton jobs”
-Went from a record surplus to a record deficit in a few months
-Wasted months filibustering popularly demanded health care legislation for partisan reasons

The republican party’s view of the proper role of government is unreasonable and partisan, to the extent where it is unreasonable to expect them to get anything done which is not to the benefit of the people lining their pockets.

Yes, as in they don’t vote in their best interests.

Yep, the republicans are totally not going to go against this, and are going to smack it down like the TAX INCREASE it is. :slight_smile:

Now this is just dumb, even for you. And that’s saying something. The lead-in at your second site should have tipped you off…

…since it is a statement that doesn’t align with the quotes they supplied.

Yeesh!

Do you have a cite for this?

Nope. Tell me, will you ever hold Obama accountable for anything? The Reps wanted more cuts. And if we had more cuts—substantially more—it would have reduced the likelihood that we’d be downgraded.

And literally, I don’y think the word “literally” means what you think it means.

“We crippled the nation, but we didn’t cripple our credit rating!”

When the Democrats take a bad position your ilk gets so giddy it soils its pants.

To gain credibility you need to condemn Republican mistakes as well, not just indulge in meaningless snark.

Well, that figure may be old…

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/22/opinion/polls/main657083.shtml

So it’s not exactly 40%… But it’s at least in that ballpark.

Standard and Poor specifically cited our inability to form a stable government as a reason. It did not mention cuts or even the size of our debts or deficit.

Your summation of policies is incorrect.

Then why should the Republicans have been the ones to step back? Why, in the interests of a stable government, shouldn’t the Democrats scale back on spending?

What makes the Democrats right – not in a “it’s my opinion” but in absolute certainty?

In an earlier post, the claim was made that Republican policies weakened science.

In this argument, you seem to be ascribing scientific certainty to matters that are not susceptible to scientific certainty. Was your concept of science taught by schools using Republican policies?

The Repugs refuse to add more taxes unless there are substantial spending cuts involved.

The Dumbs refuse to make any meaningful cuts to spending while still pushing hard for increasing taxes.

The bottom line is this: We will have increased taxes. We will have expanding government. We will like it or else.

That’s unfortunately not true. No truth, whoever presents it, is ever completely accepted by the opposition. For example, at various times in the last 3 year, Obama or others have presented a valid copy of his birth certificate. Yet if you polled, there would still be those that say he was not born in the US.

There’s no “unless.” They refuse to raise taxes regardless of any other variable, They all pledged their soul to their lord and master, Grover Norquist.

It’s very obvious to me from context that by moron he means uneducated, uninformed people, or people who make the unfortunate choice to not explore or challenge their outlook beyond whatever crap happened to be instilled into them during their upbringing. I can’t imagine why you thought natural IQ had anything to do with it.

Because the Republicans are the ones who picked the fight over raising the debt ceiling. Concerned about the deficit? Want to get a handle on government spending? Done reasonably, I’m all for it. Best of luck getting your ideas adopted. But it doesn’t need to be done this way; don’t hold up necessary bookkeeping in a tantrum to get your own way.