# I pit the Republicans who have opposed social progress by... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924 "2013-06-25T23:37:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![tralfamidor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@tralfamidor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tralfamidor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/81 "2013-06-27T21:21:53Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > lol. > > look guys. he’s mad someone made fun of _Clothy_. > > You know what? You two talk this out all respectful like. I think Clothahump is the perfect debate partner for you. > > lol. Saying “lol” after everything is a stupid internet trope, in that by doing so, you’re asserting that what you said is devastatingly funny but that your readers nonetheless can’t figure that out–it’s the contemporary equivalent of the sitcom laugh track. If you dislike this guy Clothy, fine–but that doesn’t mean you should abandon the rules of civility and common decency when responding to him or to any other poster. The people here kind of disgust me in their behavior, attitude, and manner. Internet incivility is, sadly, another trope–you can drop all pretensions of being a civilized human being and just let yourself spew. Sad, really, that so many people have this behavior so ready to pull out at a moment’s notice–calling complete strangers idiots, etc. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/82 "2013-06-27T21:23:26Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > Any rules about one poster calling another an idiot? Or any of the other insults flung at me in this thread? Or do people get to act like utter assholes without sanction in the BBQ Pit? No, idiot. If you read the rules, moron, you’d know that. If you, a fucking shithead, had anything resembling a clue, then you’d be able to scrape together 2 of your 3 brain cells together to cobble together a coherent point, jackass. ---
**Author:** ![tralfamidor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@tralfamidor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tralfamidor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/83 "2013-06-27T21:26:00Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > [Nelson Muntz]HAW HAW[/Nelson Muntz] > > You are utterly clueless. > > This is the Pit. > > Abandon all Politeness Ye Who Enter Here. Had I been “clueless,” I wouldn’t have postulated that which you confirm is, in fact, true: that people get to act like children at recess here. Believe me, I easily figured out that common decency was not mandated here. What also seems to be true is that people come here, not to discuss anything, but to engage in childish behavior, pitch insults, and in general be assholes. I don’t want to spend any more time in the chimpanzee cage, so I’ll leave you all to throw feces at one another. You all evidently think that’s fun–how sad. ---
**Author:** ![tralfamidor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@tralfamidor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tralfamidor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/84 "2013-06-27T21:27:10Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > No, idiot. If you read the rules, moron, you’d know that. If you, a fucking shithead, had anything resembling a clue, then you’d be able to scrape together 2 of your 3 brain cells together to cobble together a coherent point, jackass. How sad to observe your behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/85 "2013-06-27T22:03:46Z")
“Sad, really, that so many people have this behavior so ready to pull out at a moment’s notice–calling complete strangers idiots, etc.” Well, see, I dispute this, also. I started with you making cogent points, politely, you started with the snark. And then you responded to my demolishing your arguments with strawmanning or ignoring the posts you couldn’t refute, or moving the goalposts. I pointed out all of this to give you chance to respond intelligently, and you ‘burbled burbled’. So you see, I didn’t call you an idiot at a moment’s notice - I waited until you had demonstrated it beyond all doubt. Also, you’re a hypocrite, and your father smells of elderberries. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/86 "2013-06-27T22:07:31Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > Saying “lol” after everything is a stupid internet trope, in that by doing so, you’re asserting that what you said is devastatingly funny but that your readers nonetheless can’t figure that out–it’s the contemporary equivalent of the sitcom laugh track. > > If you dislike this guy Clothy, fine–but that doesn’t mean you should abandon the rules of civility and common decency when responding to him or to any other poster. The people here kind of disgust me in their behavior, attitude, and manner. Internet incivility is, sadly, another trope–you can drop all pretensions of being a civilized human being and just let yourself spew. > > Sad, really, that so many people have this behavior so ready to pull out at a moment’s notice–calling complete strangers idiots, etc. lol ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/87 "2013-06-27T22:22:30Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > How sad to observe your behavior. Aww Tralfy, don’t be a sad mopey face and start pouting:( I find you amusing. The pretentiousness, the condescension, the arrogance all framed by a genuine lack of self awareness… Please stay and continue spouting your inimitable. "All bow before me, my name IS my cite “shtick”… ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/88 "2013-06-27T22:35:17Z")
It’s funny, if you would have asked me I’d have said there’s no way a pit of Republicans would turn on the OP on this board. And yet… 🙂 I guess Dopers hate pretentious assholes _even more than Republicans._ Yowza! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/89 "2013-06-27T23:17:58Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > How sad to observe your behavior. Look, **tralf,** lemme clue you in: This is the Dope. On **this** Board, if everyone else in the thread appears to unite in calling you an idiot, it’s not them, it’s you. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/90 "2013-06-27T23:23:06Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > How sad to observe your behavior. You know what’s sad? You trying to get an erection without a clown choking you. I find that depressing. No clown should have to choke you. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/91 "2013-06-27T23:59:44Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > You know what’s sad? You trying to get an erection without a clown choking you. I find that depressing. No clown should have to choke you. I honestly don’t know what this means, but it made me laugh my ass off. Not sure what that says about me. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/92 "2013-06-28T00:36:44Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > It’s funny, if you would have asked me I’d have said there’s no way a pit of Republicans would turn on the OP on this board. And yet… 🙂 > > I guess Dopers hate pretentious assholes _even more than Republicans._ Yowza! Maybe Miss Elizabeth. In my fantasies I’d like to think arguing in bad faith would get you skewered regardless of party affiliation. You can’t have a civilized pitting to savage the topic du jour with someone who went to the Pee Wee Herman School of Rhetoric. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/93 "2013-06-28T00:47:54Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Our cancer is massive debt. It was caused by out-of-control government spending. We’ve known what’s caused it, but what do we do? Spend, spend, borrow and spend, and then spend some more. You might have a point if high deficits caused the problem or if lowering deficits would put a single person back to work. But they didn’t and it wouldn’t, so you’re just full of nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/94 "2013-06-28T01:47:56Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > Had I been “clueless,” I wouldn’t have postulated that which you confirm is, in fact, true: that people get to act like children at recess here. Believe me, I easily figured out that common decency was not mandated here. > > What also seems to be true is that people come here, not to discuss anything, but to engage in childish behavior, pitch insults, and in general be assholes. I don’t want to spend any more time in the chimpanzee cage, so I’ll leave you all to throw feces at one another. You all evidently think that’s fun–how sad. I’m getting a E. M. Forster vibe here. Are you channeling Cecil Vyse? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/95 "2013-06-28T03:47:18Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Oh look, it’s Clothahump, doing what he does best: being [del]offensively wrong[/del] absolutely correct about _fucking everything_. Fixed that for ya, because you’re a total retard. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/96 "2013-06-28T03:51:07Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > Yes, in fact, we are still pretty well off. The recession hurt us, but we’ve come out of it in much better shape than most of the industrialized Western nations. As far as debt goes, I know it’s the boogeyman in the closet, but it isn’t as crippling as you make it out to be. I think we have to disagree on this. I think it is crippling. It’s getting worse on a daily basis and I seriously fear that the entire house of cards is going to collapse on us if we don’t do something drastic to fix it very soon. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/97 "2013-06-28T04:31:42Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Fixed that for ya, because you’re a total retard. [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16420521#post16420521) for ya, because you’re an illiterate retard. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/98 "2013-06-28T08:38:02Z")
> [@tralfamidor](#): > > Any rules about one poster calling another an idiot? Or any of the other insults flung at me in this thread? Or do people get to act like utter assholes without sanction in the BBQ Pit? No, those insults were all fine. And yes, people do get to act like utter assholes in the Pit. In fact, it’s the express purpose of this forum. You would probably know this already, if you had read the [BBQ Pit rules sticky](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985). Or the [forum description](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?f=15). Or just about any of the other threads in here. You should probably do that before you start any more Pit threads. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/99 "2013-06-28T08:39:41Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Fixed that for ya, because you’re a total retard. [Moderating] What did I _just fucking say_? This is a formal warning for altering a quote inside of a quote box. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2013, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-republicans-who-have-opposed-social-progress-by/661924/100 "2013-06-28T10:18:23Z")
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