# I pit the Revelations TV miniseries **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 14, 2005, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223 "2005-04-14T02:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/21 "2005-04-14T14:17:06Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > They are for organ donation, yes, but what is the official stance on “pulling the plug?” That’s a complete different question, and not one that **tdn** ’s “Christians are such hypocrites” rant raised. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/22 "2005-04-14T14:17:40Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > Most Christian denominations approve of organ donations, and many, including several of the largest (Roman Catholic, Southern Baptist, Lutheran) encourage it as an act of charity. > > Funny how wrong “limited experience” can be. In which case I’m glad to be wrong. And it turns out that only 5% of Americans say donation is against their religion. (I closed the cite, unfortunately.) But then one wonders why such a thing turned up in such a horrid movie. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/23 "2005-04-14T14:18:31Z")
Yoink! Thanks, buddy, I’ll take that if you don’t mind. (But really, I am going to start a thread about the hollywood conception of atheists, which consists of nothing more then the stereotype you spotted. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/24 "2005-04-14T14:21:57Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I’d love to hear a Christian explain this one. Color me perplexed. Wife used to work for an organ bank, which turned out to have nothing to do with Wurlitzers but they did have a vault. She said that many small and conservative Protestant Christian congregations teach you must be intact when you are resurrected because it’s real hard to get around Heaven without a heart. How you are supposed to do it when you’ve rotted away to your constituent elements I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/25 "2005-04-14T14:22:37Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > That’s a complete different question, and not one that **tdn** ’s “Christians are such hypocrites” rant raised. It was not a rant, and I didn’t call Christians hypocrits. I had a legitimate question, and you answered it. I thank you for that. Now get off your high fucking horse. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/26 "2005-04-14T14:24:21Z")
The sad thing is the fellow who wrote this crap is the same guy who wrote the screenplay for “The Omen.” That was a good, scary movie. The only thing I never got was why the Preist didn’t turn into Jon Pertwee ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/27 "2005-04-14T14:27:01Z")
Shouldn’t she have been speaking in Greek? And WTF is this “Book of Joel” referenced in the lead in? ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/28 "2005-04-14T14:41:14Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > But then one wonders why such a thing turned up in such a horrid movie. Because it’s a fictional miniseries? With rare exception, TV miniseries are often contrived crap with little basis in reality. > [@tdn](#): > > It was not a rant, and I didn’t call Christians hypocrits. I had a legitimate question, and you answered it. I thank you for that. > > Now get off your high fucking horse. I apologize then–your questions seemed to be written in a very cloying and condescending manner, but I obviously misinterpretered it. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/29 "2005-04-14T14:45:40Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > I apologize then–your questions seemed to be written in a very cloying and condescending manner, but I obviously misinterpretered it. Meh, I fault myself. I should have put more emphasis on “in my limited experience” and asked whether it matched reality. That was largely the thrust of my question. Thanks for clearing things up. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/30 "2005-04-14T14:50:10Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Shouldn’t she have been speaking in Greek? She was speaking the Word of God. When i was a kid God spoke Latin but he’s since learned English. > [@](#): > > And WTF is this “Book of Joel” referenced in the lead in? Dasn’t betray your ignorance to THIS crowd, bro! It ain’t long, but it ain’t in the Apocrypha, neither. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/31 "2005-04-14T14:51:01Z")
Throughout the episode I kept saying “Please don’t say persistent vegetative state, please don’t say persistent vegetative state,” and then they said it. I guess the suits have finally learned the lesson of _Left Behind_ and _The Passion of the Christ_: There’s a lot of money in the fundie demogarphic. If this does well we can expect more superstitious glurgy crap in the future. I worry about my country. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/32 "2005-04-14T15:02:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Shouldn’t she have been speaking in Greek? If she was quoting the NT, she should have been. If she was quoting the Tanakh she should have been speaking Hebrew. If she was literally quoting Jesus, she should have been speaking Aramaic (I didn’t see it so I don’t know exactly what she quoted). No part of the Bible was written in Latin so there is no logical reason for the girl to channel that language. If she’s going to pick a translation, why not English? It just proves that the people who wrote this are stupid. They don’t even get the Catholicism right from what I’ve read. > [@](#): > > And WTF is this “Book of Joel” referenced in the lead in? Gloom and doom prophet in the Hebrew Bible. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/33 "2005-04-14T15:03:51Z")
**’Luci** , I’m surprised at you! I didn;t watch the showe but I know the passage they must have referenced. Joel 2:28-31. > [@](#): > > ``` > 28 "And afterward, > > I will pour out my Spirit on all people. > > Your sons and daughters will prophesy, > > your old men will dream dreams, > > your young men will see visions. > > 29 Even on my servants, both men and women, > > I will pour out my Spirit in those days. > > 30 I will show wonders in the heavens > > and on the earth, > > blood and fire and billows of smoke. > > 31 The sun will be turned to darkness > > and the moon to blood > > before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD . > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/34 "2005-04-14T15:08:47Z")
God speaks Latin? 😕 I would’ve banked on Esparanto. ;j ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/35 "2005-04-14T15:09:44Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Wife used to work for an organ bank, which turned out to have nothing to do with Wurlitzers but they did have a vault. She said that many small and conservative Protestant Christian congregations teach you must be intact when you are resurrected because it’s real hard to get around Heaven without a heart. How you are supposed to do it when you’ve rotted away to your constituent elements I don’t know. That would be a hell of a note, wouldn’t it? I very recently heard the same “theory” from an acquaintence of mine. It made me wonder. There were various saints/martyrs who had very nasty things happen - beheaded, drawn and quartered, burned, squashed, skinned, nasty nasty stuff. Will these guys be wandering heaven forever all fucked up, like the guys in Beetljuice? It’s idiotic. Catholics are taught that the body is a shell, a tool. You use it while you have it. When you are done with it (pushing up daisies), your soul is still intact and complete. At some point of full physical resurrection, the body is brought back whole and complete, and perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/36 "2005-04-14T15:15:53Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It made me wonder. There were various saints/martyrs who had very nasty things happen - beheaded, drawn and quartered, burned, squashed, skinned, nasty nasty stuff. Will these guys be wandering heaven forever all fucked up, like the guys in Beetljuice? The very conservative fundamentalists who believe that you need an intact body for the resurection probably don’t believe in saints. That’s something for the evil papists. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/37 "2005-04-14T15:18:14Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > The very conservative fundamentalists who believe that you need an intact body for the resurection probably don’t believe in saints. That’s something for the evil papists. 😉 Guilty as charged 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/38 "2005-04-14T15:20:00Z")
**SteveG1** , More proof that many of those who are virtually rabid in their “biblical” beleifs haven’t even read the Bible. The NT details that one must exchange bodies, physical and corruptible for heavenly incorruptible. 1 Corinthians 15: 50-55 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/39 "2005-04-14T15:20:02Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > The very conservative fundamentalists who believe that you need an intact body for the resurection probably don’t believe in saints. That’s something for the evil papists. 😉 As far as I understand it, in fundie Protestant theology, the “saints” are the saved in Christ, but not a separate, extra-holy class of saved person and most especially not an object of prayer. Prayer is only to be addressed to God in the name of Jesus, so nix on the prayers to St. Anthony to find your car keys or saying novenas to St. Jude for the Democrats to win an election. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223/40 "2005-04-14T15:25:13Z")
[1 Cor 15:50-55](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor15:50-55;&version=9;) Meant to do that in the other post. Hey!? If English was good enough for Jesus, why would God speak Latin? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-revelations-tv-miniseries/299223.md?page=3)