# I pit the secessonist movement, GOP excuses, AND the move-to-Canada movement **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273 "2012-11-17T03:29:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/1 "2012-11-17T03:29:43Z")
(I read the guidelines, but this is my first Pit posting; please gently correct me if I’m out of line). I pit these secessonist assholes who want their state to leave the Union, most of whom aren’t even honest enough to admit they’re doing it because they’re a bunch of racist fucks! When Republicans lose a general election, they all think their state can do it alone. In my opinion, they’re on the wrong side of history, and this infinitesimal percentage of people start ranting and raving and throwing a giant pity party, seeming to forget that we had to put up with 8 years of Dubya and his bullshit. I pit people who think of themselves as citizens of their state first, and as Americans a _distant,_ distant second, who disagree so strongly with what people have legitimately voted for that they think they can go it alone. Maybe, just _maybe,_ the majority in this instance knows what they’re talking about? And maybe, if the GOP spent less time obstructing everything just because the Democrats want to try it, _we’d actually be able to get something accomplished!_ I pit Mitt Romney for being a sore loser and making specious accusations of Barack Obama making “gifts” to donors to help him win the election. That’s said with such a lack of self-awareness I don’t even know where to begin. Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that Romney talked a big game but didn’t actually present any _ideas_ on how to accomplish his goals? Romney’s trying to channel the Andrew Jackson/John Quincy Adams “corrupt bargain” days, and it’s just not working for him. And while I’m at it: Just to be fair, I _also_ pit my fellow Democrats who, whenever a _Republican_ wins the general election, start making noises about moving to Canada. As if anybody actually follows through on that! ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/2 "2012-11-17T03:31:25Z")
Damn right. Canada is too fucking cold. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/3 "2012-11-17T09:39:01Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > (I read the guidelines, but this is my first Pit posting; please gently correct me if I’m out of line). > > I pit these secessonist assholes who want their state to leave the Union, most of whom aren’t even honest enough to admit they’re doing it because they’re a bunch of racist fucks! When Republicans lose a general election, they all think their state can do it alone. In my opinion, they’re on the wrong side of history, and this infinitesimal percentage of people start ranting and raving and throwing a giant pity party, seeming to forget that we had to put up with 8 years of Dubya and his bullshit. > > I pit people who think of themselves as citizens of their state first, and as Americans a _distant,_ distant second, who disagree so strongly with what people have legitimately voted for that they think they can go it alone. Maybe, just _maybe,_ the majority in this instance knows what they’re talking about? And maybe, if the GOP spent less time obstructing everything just because the Democrats want to try it, _we’d actually be able to get something accomplished!_ > > I pit Mitt Romney for being a sore loser and making specious accusations of Barack Obama making “gifts” to donors to help him win the election. That’s said with such a lack of self-awareness I don’t even know where to begin. Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that Romney talked a big game but didn’t actually present any _ideas_ on how to accomplish his goals? Romney’s trying to channel the Andrew Jackson/John Quincy Adams “corrupt bargain” days, and it’s just not working for him. > > And while I’m at it: Just to be fair, I _also_ pit my fellow Democrats who, whenever a _Republican_ wins the general election, start making noises about moving to Canada. As if anybody actually follows through on that! We moved to France. 😃 But yeah, I can support this pitting. What is even dumber, though, is the republicans who, in response to Obamacare, said they were going to move to Canada. 😃 Now _that_ was stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/4 "2012-11-17T19:58:30Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Damn right. Canada is too fucking cold. The cold helps keep away the Americans. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/5 "2012-11-17T20:14:11Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > And while I’m at it: Just to be fair, I _also_ pit my fellow Democrats who, whenever a _Republican_ wins the general election, start making noises about moving to Canada. As if anybody actually follows through on that! Lookin’ at you, Alec Baldwin. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/6 "2012-11-17T22:05:50Z")
Canada’s very nice. I like it here lots and I’m not coming back. Y’all down there below the 48th are fun to point at and laugh though. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/7 "2012-11-17T22:23:06Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Damn right. Canada is too fucking cold. And South America stole our name! > [@slumtrimpet](#): > > Canada’s very nice. I like it here lots and I’m not coming back. > Y’all down there below the 48th are fun to point at and laugh though. 49th. Educated in the States, were you? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/8 "2012-11-17T22:48:38Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Just to be fair, I _also_ pit my fellow Democrats who, whenever a _Republican_ wins the general election, start making noises about moving to Canada. You say this as if it’s a bad thing. Godspeed, I say. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/9 "2012-11-17T22:57:25Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > You say this as if it’s a bad thing. Godspeed, I say. 🆒 It all depends on your perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/10 "2012-11-18T00:07:05Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > 49th. Educated in the States, were you? I never could figure out the metric system… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/11 "2012-11-18T01:02:17Z")
28 and a third grams to an ounce, 454 grams to a pound, a million micrograms to a gram. We hippys were real big on metrics. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/12 "2012-11-18T01:07:09Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > We moved to France. 😃 > > But yeah, I can support this pitting. What is even dumber, though, is the republicans who, in response to Obamacare, said they were going to move to Canada. 😃 Now _that_ was stupid. Yeah, moving to Canada will help you with that socialism and socialized healthcare that you find so offensive. 🙂 > [@Canadjun](#): > > The cold helps keep away the Americans. 😃 Americans and Africanized Killer Bees. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/13 "2012-11-18T01:21:06Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > That’s said with such a lack of self-awareness I don’t even know where to begin. Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that Romney talked a big game but didn’t actually present any _ideas_ on how to accomplish his goals? Romney’s trying to channel the Andrew Jackson/John Quincy Adams “corrupt bargain” days, and it’s just not working for him. You people didn’t need to know his ideas. He’s Mitt Romney, for Pete’s sake! But the real reason the accusations of bribery and cronyism against Obama are so ridiculous is the fact that the last Republican president and vice president both came to the White House from the oil industry (directly from the oil industry, in Cheney’s case) and then let oil companies help draw up their energy policy. But health care coverage and old federal programs that help people get phones, yes, _that’s_ corrupt. > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > But yeah, I can support this pitting. What is even dumber, though, is the republicans who, in response to Obamacare, said they were going to move to Canada. 😃 Now _that_ was stupid. On Election Day my girlfriend spoke to a coworker who implied he’d moved, to get away from Obama, to _Brazil._ Makes more sense than Canada weather-wise, but I can’t help thinking this is what happens when you know jack shit about other countries. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/14 "2012-11-18T01:38:34Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > And while I’m at it: Just to be fair, I _also_ pit my fellow Democrats who, whenever a _Republican_ wins the general election, start making noises about moving to Canada. As if anybody actually follows through on that! Meh; at least it makes _logical_ sense for a Democrat who wants a more “socialist” (by American standards) society to move to one that already is closer to what they want. As said, it’s the rightwingers who rant about moving to countries that are even more what they say they are running away from who are truly silly. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/15 "2012-11-18T01:44:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > 28 and a third grams to an ounce Wait… WHAT!!! So an eigth is actually MORE than 3.5 grams? I’ve been getting shorted for 30 years. > [@Marley23](#): > > You people didn’t need to know his ideas. He’s Mitt Romney, for Pete’s sake! But the real reason the accusations of bribery and cronyism against Obama are so ridiculous is the fact that the last Republican president and vice president both came to the White House from the oil industry (directly from the oil industry, in Cheney’s case) and then let oil companies help draw up their energy policy. But health care coverage and old federal programs that help people get phones, yes, _that’s_ corrupt. Well, that energy bill also funded Solyndra so… > [@](#): > > On Election Day my girlfriend spoke to a coworker who implied he’d moved, to get away from Obama, to _Brazil._ Makes more sense than Canada weather-wise, but I can’t help thinking this is what happens when you know jack shit about other countries. I had a friend who said he would retire and move to Belize (he has a place down there) if Obama lost. Which is strange because he was almost SURE that Obama couldn’t win in 2008. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/16 "2012-11-18T01:50:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > 28 and a third grams to an ounce, 454 grams to a pound, a million micrograms to a gram. We hippys were real big on metrics. To be more precise: oz = 28.349523 gram lb = 453.59237 gram gram = 1000000 µg ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/17 "2012-11-18T04:13:46Z")
We didn’t have scales that good. Shit, you were lucky if your [del]dealer[/del] friend weighed it instead of tossing the bag a couple times and say, “That feels like an ounce.” ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/18 "2012-11-18T05:04:26Z")
As a person who lives in Tx and is a liberal. (Well, really a moderate, but in Tx that makes me a pinko commie of some kind.) And I say this, loving TX, I really do. Every election that the whackadoos don’t like this is brought up. (I identify as American first, personally. So it makes me crazy angry when this comes up. I’m also a Texan, but a naturalized one. Meaning I’m from Kentucky.) So I’m watching the local news and they’re talking about the petitions…blah blah and my fella walks in from his office where he’s been steadily working. Me: Guess what? A lot of whackadoos want TX to secede. Him: \ Oh damn! We have to move? Me: No honey don’t worry! I have a plan! We’ll move…to Colorado 🙂 Him: \ Now I’m not so worried. They do this everytime. We can secede! We were a republic first! blah blah You know, "Tell it to my ass b/c my face AND my hand aren’t listening. " They don’t get the logistics. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/19 "2012-11-18T05:09:55Z")
Just to be clear. There is _no_ “movement”. Not even a wet fart of a movement. There’s always a few wing nuts. So far, I dont think they even have 1/1000 signatures anywhere. And the only time I thought there was legit excuse was the Shrub/Gore election, which Gore should have won. The rest of the time- _the people spoke, get over it._ (Even when Shrub won his second term vs Kerry, I had no “excuses”. Kerry lost, Shrub won- the people spoke. ) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273/20 "2012-11-18T05:25:05Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I pit Mitt Romney for being a sore loser and making specious accusations of Barack Obama making “gifts” to donors to help him win the election. Nitpick: he was accusing Obama of making “gifts” to voters, rather than donors. The only gift us donors got was a butt-gigantic avalanche of e-mails asking for more money. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-secessonist-movement-gop-excuses-and-the-move-to-canada-movement/641273.md?page=2)