# I pit the Taliban **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271 "2012-10-10T00:36:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/41 "2012-10-10T19:26:06Z")
> [@manila](#): > > Fuckit. No more drunk posting. Without this there would be no interesting content here. ---
**Author:** ![Makeitstop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bb73d2/32.png) [@Makeitstop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Makeitstop)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/42 "2012-10-10T19:33:42Z")
Yeah, I’m on board with pitting the Taliban. Both the ones who try to kill little girls, and the ones cowering in civilian populations, knowing that no matter what we do, they win. We drone strike, then innocent people die with them. If we don’t drone strike, they live, and go on to kill innocent people. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/43 "2012-10-11T03:16:09Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > From your own Pew cite. And even though they think they kill too many innocents, 40% of them STILL approve of the strikes. I’m not saying killing innocents is good. I’m saying in this case, it is a net positive. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/44 "2012-10-11T03:17:57Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > How about their cacti? I seem to recall seeing that as a major thread point. > > The Psy-Ops in me thinks it would be entertaining if the drones carried loudspeakers in addition to missiles, and to break the drone attack into two parts. > > Part 1: A cluster of loudspeakers is dropped in the target zone announcing: THE US HAS TARGETED ABBAS BIN ALKELB IN THE VILLAGE OF BUMFUK. HE HAS 30 MINUTES TO SAY GOODBYE TO HIS FAMILY AND TO REPORT TO THE LARGE ROCK JUST SOUTH OF THE VILLAGE FOR AN HONORABLE AND VALOROUS MARTYRDOM. SHOULD HE CONTINUE TO COWER AMONG THE INNOCENTS, HE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEATHS IN THE DRONE STRIKE 31 MINUTES FROM NOW. > > Part 2: A drone bomb goes off in 31 minutes If they’re capable of tracking him if he goes into hiding, then yes it’s a good tactic. But if 6 cars leave the compound he’s in and head in different directions, what’re you going to do? ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/45 "2012-10-11T03:22:46Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Go fuck a cactus. Hey, maybe I’ll make a drone to do it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/46 "2012-10-11T03:29:40Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > Hey, maybe I’ll make a drone to do it for me. The cactus would probably prefer it. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/47 "2012-10-11T03:50:32Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > The difference…\… you fucking retard, is that the Taliban intentionally attack and support attacks on your(and some of their own) civilians as a matter of policy, and then go and use their own civilians as shields to prevent attacks on themselves. They’re depending on idiotic arguments like yours to keep them safe. If they’re happy to hold their own people hostage in their war against the US, I’m happy to assign the blame for civilian deaths to them. And under the circumstances, I think the US attempt to keep civilian casualties to the minimum is commendable. Well, since we are still in the pit, you fucking bigoted brainwaished turd, Americans are every bit as ignorant of their place in the world as Brezhnev era Soviet citizens. Did you ever hear about the time the US invaded Iraq for no good reason, and as a result, thousands upon thousands of civilians died? “But, but those were accidents” you say as you desperately cling to your sad little fiction that we are always the good guys and never, ever do anything wrong. Bullfuckingshit, it’s not an accident when a government pursues a policy that results in the death of thousands of civilians. That is the government killing civilians as a matter of policy. Look, I understand why the Taliban are a bunch of ignorant savages, they live in what is essentially a medieval world surrounded by lunatics who blast hate into their heads all day long. I have no fucking idea why so many Americans like you are so fucking ignorant. You have access to more an unprecedented amount of information and viewpoints than ever before in history, and yet you can’t wipe that ignorant, smug and goat semen stained smirk off your face long enough to take a peek outside of the bubble you live in to think about the world in any way that might challenge your world view: that America is daddy and daddy is always good and strong and would never, ever do anything bad. People like you are why American cheapens itself with pointless wars in Vietnam and Iraq. People like you are why people like my friend Chuck died for no reason in Baghdad. People like you are too fucking ignorant to be ashamed. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/48 "2012-10-11T04:26:19Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Well, since we are still in the pit, you fucking bigoted brainwaished turd, Americans are every bit as ignorant of their place in the world as Brezhnev era Soviet citizens. Did you ever hear about the time the US invaded Iraq for no good reason, and as a result, thousands upon thousands of civilians died? “But, but those were accidents” you say as you desperately cling to **your sad little fiction that we are always the good guys and never, ever do anything wrong**. Not only did **bldysabba** never say that, I don’t recall anyone in the entire thread saying that. > [@madmonk28](#): > > Bullfuckingshit, it’s not an accident when a government pursues a policy that results in the death of thousands of civilians. That is the government killing civilians as a matter of policy. > > Look, I understand why the Taliban are a bunch of ignorant savages, they live in what is essentially a medieval world surrounded by lunatics who blast hate into their heads all day long. I have no fucking idea why so many Americans like you are so fucking ignorant. You have access to more an unprecedented amount of information and viewpoints than ever before in history, and yet you can’t wipe that ignorant, smug and goat semen stained smirk off your face long enough to take a peek outside of the bubble you live in to think about the world in any way that might challenge your world view: that **America is daddy and daddy is always good and strong and would never, ever do anything bad**. Again, no one said that. You are arguing against a point of view that has not been expressed. Do you know why no one has expressed that point of view? It’s because no one believes that America is perfect. > [@madmonk28](#): > > People like you are why American cheapens itself with pointless wars in Vietnam and Iraq. People like you are why people like my friend Chuck died for no reason in Baghdad. People like you are too fucking ignorant to be ashamed. Apparently you’re too wrapped up in your own righteous indignation and your own ignorance to know that my good friend **bldysabba** is not, in fact, American. So now pretty much everything you wrote was you vociferously arguing against absolutely nothing that anything at all to do with reality. Good job. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/49 "2012-10-11T04:45:24Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Well, since we are still in the pit, you fucking bigoted brainwaished turd, Americans are every bit as ignorant of their place in the world as Brezhnev era Soviet citizens. Did you ever hear about the time the US invaded Iraq for no good reason, and as a result, thousands upon thousands of civilians died? “But, but those were accidents” you say as you desperately cling to your sad little fiction that we are always the good guys and never, ever do anything wrong. Good job staying on topic genius. > [@](#): > > Bullfuckingshit, it’s not an accident when a government pursues a policy that results in the death of thousands of civilians. That is the government killing civilians as a matter of policy. Who said it’s an accident? I said - “If they’re happy to hold their own people hostage in their war against the US, I’m happy to assign the blame for civilian deaths to them.” > [@](#): > > Look, I understand why the Taliban are a bunch of ignorant savages, they live in what is essentially a medieval world surrounded by lunatics who blast hate into their heads all day long. I have no fucking idea why so many Americans like you are so fucking ignorant. You have access to more an unprecedented amount of information and viewpoints than ever before in history, and yet you can’t wipe that ignorant, smug and goat semen stained smirk off your face long enough to take a peek outside of the bubble you live in to think about the world in any way that might challenge your world view: that America is daddy and daddy is always good and strong and would never, ever do anything bad. > > People like you are why American cheapens itself with pointless wars in Vietnam and Iraq. People like you are why people like my friend Chuck died for no reason in Baghdad. People like you are too fucking ignorant to be ashamed. Buddy, you don’t know the first thing about me, which is alright, I don’t expect you to. However, with that comes the expectation that you won’t erect strawmen that you find convenient. And if you could read/comprehend worth a damn, you would have figured out from my post that I’m not American. ETA: ninja’d ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/50 "2012-10-11T04:50:45Z")
If it weren’t for the civilian casuaty rates, I’d continue to support drone strikes. However, I do support highly trained assassination squads & bounties for Taliban heads. I don’t mean leaders (tho they would earn the highest bounties)- I mean actual heads. I’m just Old Testament that way. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/51 "2012-10-11T05:01:47Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > The cactus would probably prefer it. Heh, good one. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/52 "2012-10-11T09:43:14Z")
I pit the Taliban too. Unless they get a pro sports team who happen to be playing the NY Yankees, the New Jersey Devils, the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Atlanta Braves or the Oklahoma City Thunder. Then I’ll don a turban, flash a sword and say all things common to the 5th or 6th century. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/53 "2012-10-11T12:16:53Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > But if 6 cars leave the compound he’s in and head in different directions, what’re you going to do? Blow up the house he just left and remind the locals the collaterals died because Abbas was a chicken who put his life ahead of theirs. Why not? We’re going to lose this peace anyway. **Friar Ted** ’s got the best idea advanced so far. I wonder how loyal a target’s friends and family would be if the bounty were equal to the cost of one drone missile + 2% of the cost of a drone, in addition to not getting their asses blown up. Not everyone would play along, but I have to think the confirmed kill rate would be at least close to what we’re currently achieving. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/54 "2012-10-11T13:14:03Z")
We tried that before and ended up with a bunch of random nobodies sitting in Guantanamo for three years. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/55 "2012-10-11T13:36:45Z")
Gitmo always was the flaw in that system. I prefer our new system where we accidentally drop them from a helicopter a few dozen miles out to sea. No prisoners = no human rights violations. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/56 "2012-10-11T13:55:20Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I pit the Taliban too. Unless they get a pro sports team who happen to be playing the NY Yankees, the New Jersey Devils, the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Atlanta Braves or the Oklahoma City Thunder. I misread this as “The Oklahoma City Bombers” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/57 "2012-10-11T13:59:27Z")
Wow, it’s crazy the quick turn this thread took away from these crazy fuckers who SHOT A YOUNG GIRL IN THE HEAD TO MAKE A POLITICAL POINT. And threatened to do it again when she’s out of the hospital. Maybe the near universal condamnation of this act in Pakistan will finally wake up the Pakistani leaders to the fact that they have to do something about the maniacs they’re allowing to take over parts of their country. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/58 "2012-10-11T14:36:05Z")
> [@LateComer](#): > > Wow, it’s crazy the quick turn this thread took away from these crazy fuckers who SHOT A YOUNG GIRL IN THE HEAD TO MAKE A POLITICAL POINT. And threatened to do it again when she’s out of the hospital. Why are you surprised? It’s a very common kneejerk reaction in some leftist circles to respond with “we’re just as bad” to any act of barbarism out there. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/59 "2012-10-11T16:25:16Z")
> [@LateComer](#): > > Maybe the near universal condamnation of this act in Pakistan will finally wake up the Pakistani leaders to the fact that they have to do something about the maniacs they’re allowing to take over parts of their country. Bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271/60 "2012-10-11T18:30:56Z")
> [@LateComer](#): > > Maybe the near universal condamnation of this act in Pakistan will finally wake up the Pakistani leaders to the fact that they have to do something about the maniacs they’re allowing to take over parts of their country. This is some of the funniest shit I have read this week! You got anymore? Maybe you should try a stand-up routine at your local open-mic night. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-taliban/637271.md?page=4)