# I pit the thought police, or prison rape is cool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636 "2005-08-25T22:03:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/1 "2005-08-25T22:03:01Z")

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A few months ago I was watching Team America: World Police with someone who got really offended. Not by the language, or the politics, or the blowing up of a bunch of historical landmarks. To most of that she laughed or expressed “Meh”. No she was offended because the Tim Robbins puppet got set on fire.

“That’s horrible, they’re burning him in effigy. That’s wrong!”

Sorry, setting Tim Robbins on fire is wrong (just barely), but setting a Tim Robbins puppet on fire? Comedy gold. And a valid artistic critisism. Of course, some will disagree with me. But they can go fuck themselves. Better yet, they can rape themselves, in prison.

Prison rape is a horrible thing. The dammage done to the victim on a mental/emotional level is probably incomprehensible to those of us lucky enough to have never experienced it. That makes it the perfect thing to wish upon someone when you are righteously enraged. No one (as of yet, anyway) has suggested it is an actual, appropiate punishment for any offense. No one is endorsing legislation to encourage the practice of prison rape. It’s just the worst thing currently imaginable. And it’s an obvious goto vengence wish when someone has broken a law and are probably going to prison.

[In this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=331759) I implied that I wished prison rape upon Eleusis, because I thought he(?) was being an asshat, specifically about this issue, and contextually it fit. Does this mean I think literal Prison rape is what he diserves? Of course not, you literal minded fucknuts. It’s a goddamn metaphor. You did something bad, and I hope something bad happens to you, cause you deserve it.

There seems to be a type of person who like to read Pit threads looking for statements they can claim are too over the top. This allows them to chastize the pittor and feel morally superior. Look, all you thought police candy ass whiny brats, what I think and say in a fit of anger on an anonymous message board has little to do with my overall general feelings, and exactly 0 impact on what is going to happen to the people I’m pissed at. But it makes me feel better, so shut the fuck up and stop co-opting other peoples threads , or I will have negative thoughts about you and may suggest you go get raped. Think I mean it? Then you’re still fucktards, and you can go shit in you respective hats.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/2 "2005-08-25T22:16:45Z")

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I’m not 100% behind you on this, but I was amused at the idea expressed in the other thread that wishing prison rape on someone was horrible, but wishing that someone lose several limbs in a car accident was okay. Neither are exactly pleasant fates, but if I had to choose between the two of them, I’d probably pick the one that left my body parts more-or-less intact. I mean, you can get over being raped. You can’t regrow your legs.

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/3 "2005-08-25T22:21:48Z")

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I don’t disagree with you. I think people take stuff in the pit waaay too seriously. But I also think if you’re going to get into it here you need some thick skin. Let it go and let the literalists go be sour.

And, might I add, you’re about to get metaphorically assraped for your rant. I’m not criticizing, just thought I’d warn you. You’ve been here for all of what…three months? Good luck, and Godspeed.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/4 "2005-08-25T22:30:55Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> Look, all you thought police candy ass whiny brats, what I think and say in a fit of anger on an anonymous message board has little to do with my overall general feelings, and exactly 0 impact on what is going to happen to the people I’m pissed at. But it makes me feel better, so shut the fuck up and stop co-opting other peoples threads , or I will have negative thoughts about you and may suggest you go get raped. Think I mean it? Then you’re still fucktards, and you can go shit in you respective hats.

Son, you have a panty on your head.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/5 "2005-08-25T22:34:25Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> There seems to be a type of person who like to read Pit threads looking for statements they can claim are too over the top.

Well, that’s obviously completely uncalled-for. Bad form, sir!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/6 "2005-08-25T22:40:06Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Bad form, sir!

My **GOD** , have you no shame?!

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/7 "2005-08-25T22:43:58Z")

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_Adjusts monocle_  
Hem…Raaaally, this has gone too far. Too FAR I say.  
How uncivilized.  
_Sips tea, goes back to reading Dennis Rodman’s autobiography_

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/8 "2005-08-25T22:45:23Z")

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Maybe people chastize you because it makes them feel better. And maybe what they say to you on an anonymous message board has little to do with their overall general feelings and has exactly zero impact on what is going to happen to you.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/9 "2005-08-25T22:46:51Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> Look, all you thought police candy ass whiny brats, what I think and say in a fit of anger on an anonymous message board has little to do with my overall general feelings, and exactly 0 impact on what is going to happen to the people I’m pissed at. But it makes me feel better, so shut the fuck up and stop co-opting other peoples threads , or I will have negative thoughts about you and may suggest you go get raped. Think I mean it? Then you’re still fucktards, and you can go shit in you respective hats.

Ahhhh, fuck you.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/10 "2005-08-25T22:49:07Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Son, you have a panty on your head.

Completely over the top and uncalled for. Do not start insulting panty-heads! What have you got against a guy that wants to pretty himself up? Boxer-breif-ist! :mad:

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/11 "2005-08-25T22:52:21Z")

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> [@Uvula Donor](#):
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> Ahhhh, fuck you.

Oh, come on. If you are going to do a [LonsomePolecat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6439693&postcount=20), do it right.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/12 "2005-08-25T22:58:04Z")

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**parthenokinesis** , I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/13 "2005-08-25T23:00:20Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Completely over the top and uncalled for. Do not start insulting panty-heads! What have you got against a guy that wants to pretty himself up? Boxer-breif-ist! :mad:

Oddly enough, I asked a serious GQ question on this very thing that went largely unanswered: [The Missus Wants to Know: Are Head Panties a New Fashion Trend?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=224746) Anything new on this? **duffer**? \*\*El\_Kabong \*\*? \*\*parthenokinesis \*\*? Anyone?

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/14 "2005-08-25T23:02:26Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> Look, all you thought police candy ass whiny brats, what I think and say in a fit of anger on an anonymous message board has little to do with my overall general feelings, and exactly 0 impact on what is going to happen to the people I’m pissed at.

OK, but it still makes you a dweeb.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/15 "2005-08-25T23:30:49Z")

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As someone who has wished prison rape on dozens of folk, including a friend’s grandma, I know from whence ya come, **parthenokinesis**. 😉

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/16 "2005-08-25T23:32:15Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> This allows them to chastize the pittor and feel morally superior.

If you even **think** of chastizing my pittor I’m coming right through this screen and dustin’ your muffin. Consider yourself warned.

> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m not 100% behind you on this, but I was amused at the idea expressed in the other thread that wishing prison rape on someone was horrible, but wishing that someone lose several limbs in a car accident was okay. Neither are exactly pleasant fates, but if I had to choose between the two of them, I’d probably pick the one that left my body parts more-or-less intact. I mean, you can get over being raped. You can’t regrow your legs.

Devil’s advocate here. It seems to me that **Eleusis** is disturbed, for whatever reason, by the idea of prison rape being tossed about thoughtlessly. It is a horrible thing, made even more so by the helplessness of the victim, and the evil intent of the perpetrator. The link **Eleusis** provided gave me pause.

For some reason, loss of limbs in an auto accident seems more impersonal. Almost an “act of God,” if you will.

I agree whloeheartedly with your larger point. I would much prefer a rape to the loss of a limb.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/17 "2005-08-25T23:40:12Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> I would much prefer a rape to the loss of a limb.

“Hey Lou, we gots one rape. No, leave the arms and legs, just give the rectum a thorough stretching.”.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/18 "2005-08-25T23:45:13Z")

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> [@vetbridge](#):
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> “Hey Lou, we gots one rape. No, leave the arms and legs, just give the rectum a thorough stretching.”.

Hell, if they stretched it first I might even _like_ it.

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/19 "2005-08-26T00:02:28Z")

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It’s bad form to quote one’s words against one.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/20 "2005-08-26T00:39:29Z")

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The OP reminded me of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=140675) from several years ago, which produced quite a lot of interesting discussion and arguments from both sides.

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