# I pit the thought police, or prison rape is cool **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636 "2005-08-25T22:03:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/21 "2005-08-26T01:01:40Z")
Excuse the heck out of those of us who understood you to have said what you said. I’ll try not to make that mistake in the future. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/22 "2005-08-26T13:47:55Z")
I think what makes people sensitive about this is that some people who read this board have been raped. Not raped in prison perhaps, but raped. Those people do not like to have that particular insult thrown about, for fairly obvious reasons. The way someone who had lost all their limbs in a car accident might not like to hear “I hope you lose all your limbs in a car accident” thrown about. Ya get me? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/23 "2005-08-26T14:22:21Z")
My main problem with wishing prison rape on people is that in some people’s minds, that somehow makes prison rape OK, an unofficial part of the justice system, and therefore not such a horrible thing IRL. Wouldn’t mind if it happened to Judith Miller a few hundred thousand times during her stint in the can, but I doubt it will. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/24 "2005-08-26T14:50:08Z")
Perhaps I did not thoroughly read the OP, hence I am a little confused … was the Tim Robbins puppet prison-raped? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/25 "2005-08-26T15:38:13Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > My main problem with wishing prison rape on people is that in some people’s minds, that somehow makes prison rape OK, an unofficial part of the justice system, and therefore not such a horrible thing IRL. In some people’s minds, prison rape _is_ OK and an unofficial part of the justice system. No one will actually own up to it, but I’d imagine many of them are the hardass types who like to obsess about anything that makes things too “cushy” for inmates. “Prison is _prison,_” they’ll say. As if it doesn’t matter whether society’s punishment is civilized, merely that it happens. > [@](#): > > Wouldn’t mind if it happened to Judith Miller a few hundred thousand times during her stint in the can, but I doubt it will. Now prison rape _fantasy_, that’s another thing entirely. Camille Paglia would no doubt applaud you as an evolved postfeminist male. Personally, my favorite wish upon an adversary is, “May you be serially torture-murdered.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/26 "2005-08-26T15:43:47Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > Perhaps I did not thoroughly read the OP, hence I am a little confused … was the Tim Robbins puppet prison-raped? Yes. Once. For 20 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/27 "2005-08-26T17:43:02Z")
> [@](#): > > **irishgirl** said: > Those people do not like to have that particular insult thrown about, for fairly obvious reasons. Not all of us (who have been raped) care. I don’t. And not all who do are people who have been raped. I don’t think it’s as simple as saying that the people who get riled up over a non-serious wish that someone get prison raped are ‘those people’ who have been raped. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/28 "2005-08-26T19:55:08Z")
**catsix** honey, I know you don’t feel that way, and I’m sorry if you felt that I mis-represented your opinion. I will change that statment to “many of those people” if you prefer. Many of us do however have a very negative reaction to the word “rape” when used in that sense (which came up in a thread about the use of words which upset people, so I’m not pulling this completely out of my ass), and so do our loved ones and family members. What I intended to highlight is the fact that for some people prison rape is a bad thing which they can’t really relate to, and it’s a phrase they can throw around lightly, for others it’s a bad thing which they CAN relate to, and for some of us it is a BAD thing we wouldn’t wish on our worst enemies because relating to it doesn’t even come close. And there are probably (as you say) groups who I haven’t even mentioned in the above paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/29 "2005-08-26T20:20:32Z")
Back in the rape the (fictional) rig driver thread, the post that stood out most was the one with the [linked poetry](http://www.spr.org/en/survivorpoetry/main.html). I ‘tried it on for size’ and wasn’t all that swayed. I don’t know if it’s because it sounded like bad Hallmark Greeting Card writing - or the fact prose like this > [@](#): > > So you’re filling me now with your masculine power, the seventh to rape me in less than an hour. just shouldn’t exist ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/30 "2005-08-27T05:43:15Z")
Prison life is structured - more’n some people care for. ---
**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636/31 "2005-08-27T05:48:45Z")
For the record, I’m here… But my vitriol is lost. I’ve never been to prison… I’ve never been raped… but meh [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-thought-police-or-prison-rape-is-cool/318636.md?page=1)