# I pit the USA **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170 "2016-11-09T08:44:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/61 "2016-11-09T13:53:53Z")
> [@nicky](#): > > You fucking idiots. You’re absolutely right. There were nearly 60 million of them stupid enough to vote for Hillary Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/62 "2016-11-09T14:02:55Z")
I just heard. What the fuck, you guys. What. The. **Fuck**. Between this, Brexit and that Philippino nutcase, I dub 2016 the Year of the Retard. The morons are officially taking over. Pucker up, it’s going to be a looong century. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/63 "2016-11-09T14:10:44Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I agree with all of this. Another advocate of the Scorched Earth policy here. It will also be interesting to see how well the Republicans can benefit from their mandate which isn’t a mandate. Trump isn’t a political master like LBJ–how will he make the various Republican factions do his bidding? How will the “regular” Republicans who barely managed to suppress their contempt for Their Candidate get along with him? The Teabaggers? The Bible Thumpers? His new pals on the alt-Right? Strange bedfellows, indeed… ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/64 "2016-11-09T14:42:33Z")
Trump doesn’t care about policy. He will be content to strut and preen and let Paul Ryan pass whatever he wants and declare everything a success. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/65 "2016-11-09T14:42:50Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > You know you’re just as fucked as the rest of us, right? Unless you’re posting from an alternate dimension. To him it might just be different flavors of fucked. The Hillary wing of the Democratic party have gotten so cozy with big money that there is not enough of a difference to make a difference to many people. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/66 "2016-11-09T14:44:30Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > [The Key Difference in How Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton Approach Problems - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/coal-miners-americas-political-canaries/483491/) > > The bizarre thing here? Clinton actually had detailed, well-explained plans to help, um, you guys. She laid it all out, nice and clear, what she planned to do to deal with the problems your communities were suffering from, how to help deal with the opioid epidemic, how to help fix Obamacare’s health costs, and more. She had a slew of policies all laid out and ready to go for you guys. > > What has Trump offered you? What has he actually proposed doing? What realistic policy proposals has he floated which will help you? And given how completely he’s lied about every other proposal he’s made, why in god’s name would you _trust_ him? > > You fucking idiots. > > You _complete_ fucking idiots. > > And that’s not even getting into all the other shit he’s going to hurt. The healthcare advances he’ll roll back. The ways he’ll make life harder for LGBT individuals. The violence visited upon muslims. > > I hope you’re real fuckin’ proud of yourself. Spitting in the face of the establishment by electing someone with no interest in or ability to help you. One might argue that she and the Democrats have had decades to implement those helpful proposals and didn’t do it. Why should he believe that Clinton would do it THIS time around? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/67 "2016-11-09T14:45:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > But what you _do_ need is another Hitler? > > Screw you. You and your ilk are so committed to making the perfect the enemy of the good that you’d rather elect a tyrant who _hates_ you and will _actively fuck you over_ because you didn’t get everything you wanted. So, wait… Hillary is “the good” in this scenario? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/68 "2016-11-09T14:54:13Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So how would people on the ACA, They need 60 votes in the senate to overturn Obamacare. > [@](#): > > women who need abortions, How does last night’s election prevent legal abortions? > [@](#): > > American Muslims and other non Christians, We didn’t destroy the constitution last night. We just elected a horribly unqualified candidate. > [@](#): > > and institutions that worked against Trump be “equally screwed” under Clinton? That’s the part that has never made sense to me. > > Actually, there is one other: with a Trump win, why would it be irrational for the “establishment” to conclude that the people wants what Trump voters want, and act accordingly? I am depressed as shit that Trump won but the world won’t end. Don’t dump on people because they voted in a way you don’t like. There are checks and balances in place. We didn’t elect a king last night we elected a president. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/69 "2016-11-09T14:58:30Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I am depressed as shit that Trump won but the world won’t end. Don’t dump on people because they voted in a way you don’t like. There are checks and balances in place. We didn’t elect a king last night we elected a president. The checks and balances will all be tipped to the right. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/70 "2016-11-09T15:07:55Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I just heard. What the fuck, you guys. What. The. **Fuck**. > > Between this, Brexit and that Philippino nutcase, I dub 2016 the Year of the Retard. The morons are officially taking over. Pucker up, it’s going to be a looong century. C. M. Kornbluth would be proud of himself, if he wouldn’t also simultaneously be utterly appalled that his prediction came true. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/71 "2016-11-09T15:23:08Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > To him it might just be different flavors of fucked. The Hillary wing of the Democratic party have gotten so cozy with big money that there is not enough of a difference to make a difference to many people. Sure, but she’s, yanno. Sane. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/72 "2016-11-09T15:30:26Z")
> [@DoggyDunnit](#): > > Trump is light-years ahead of Hillary on the “Trustability” scale. The Clintons would sell self-destructing food to the Haitians (and, in a way, they _actually did_ things about equivalent) while talking all this game about how much they “care” about them. > > Bill Clinton sat up here claiming how much he was the candidate who was about uplifting the downtrodden - he then proceeded to pull down his pants and underwear, spread his cheeks, and unleash a _ **torrent of diarrhea** _ on us. Those of us that are old enough remember that; those like me who were kids at the time have talked to many of those old enough to remember it, and done our own research. > … > [my emphasis] Skimming this thread I came across this … perhaps the most ignorant post I’ve ever seen at SDMB. It does contain its own self-description which I’ve highlighted. To prepare a point-by-point rebuttal would be like engaging a stinking but inert mound of dog shit in debate, so I’ll just echo Mr. **Cadet** ’s comment: \*\*You fucking idiot. You complete fucking idiot.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/73 "2016-11-09T16:22:02Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I have conversations like this face to face all the time. When dealing with red staters, my rule is: I will avoid politics and keep it light. I’m willing to talk about baseball, or the weather, or fly fishing, whatever; but if you bring up politics and express your opinion, I will express mine. So do you go screaming in people’s faces what “complete fucking idiots” they are, like the post above this one? Doubtful, because you’d shortly be missing several teeth. “The Courage of the Keyboard” indeed. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/74 "2016-11-09T16:35:48Z")
I tell Republicans that their policies are based on fear and ignorance and that I think they are racists. Like I said, I won’t start the political conversation, but if they start it, I will say my piece. If hearing criticism causes them to commit violence, that would prove my point. I find most conservatives are pretty much pussies when cut off from the herd. ---
**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/75 "2016-11-09T16:51:38Z")
I’m satisfied. Trump was not my first choice, but Hillary is a loathsome person. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/76 "2016-11-09T17:01:19Z")
> [@Club\_33](#): > > A lesson at the expense of a great many people who will now lose their healthcare. A lesson at the expense of a stacked Supreme Court. > > Your actions don’t just harm Democrats. They harm everyone. Sleep well, asshole. But see here, it’s not just the democrats who will be getting a “lesson.” The republicans (and others who either voted for him or threw away their vote for whatever reason) are about to reap the so-called benefits of their actions too… when Trump only serves Trump. When he doesn’t bring about more jobs, abolishes the minimum wage, when world relations are gutted, when The Wall doesn’t really get built due to default in payments (like he’s done to all his own contractors) and whatever deportation measures pass result in higher costs from the only Americans willing to work manual labor jobs, when Roe is overturned and their loved ones are now facing horrible health decisions, like what will happen once the ACA is repealed, when other countries turn their backs on us, when we see more wars, more self-serving politics that supposedly placate religious beliefs that may no longer be your own, when crime is on the upswing because ‘fringe’ elements are now considered pointless to ‘pander’ to (like gays or minorities or women) and finally, when racism and hatred and sexism and homophobia are allowed to run unchecked. To name some of the possibilities. But those are not the biggest issues that they’re going to have to deal with during his term and the ramifications (like future Supreme Court justice appointees). No, to me, what the problem will be is what us liberals are facing now. They say we overlooked the disgruntled, the disenfranchised and the ignored. Well, they believe they are the “true America” and they don’t have time for whiny millennials, deviants or thugs. They live in this protected bubble who has not much contact with life of those in the inner cities, with kids growing up that can’t afford cars or to move out of their parent’s home. Minimum wage isn’t on their radar and the block that they can represent (IE: church goers / older / stable / white) is dwindling and fast, with very few picking up the mantle. They’ll get their social security, but these younger folks will not. So, they’ll have won this battle and we’ll hear what they have to say as they fight to return us to the way things were. But in the interim, the group that’ll be voting after they will have died off, will swing the pendulum so far in the opposite direction, that the USA will be completely unrecognizable to what it is now. Because just like the rest of the planet that now thinks we’re a bunch of reprehensible buffoons who have thrust us into a shit show, they’ll hate us and want absolutely nothing to do with the establishment ever again. And then it’ll be over. May take longer than 2020, but I hope the people that voted to put us into this position enjoy the fruits of their labor. Because I liken them to those brave souls who fought the last gasp against issuing SSM certificates; they’ll be on the wrong side of history. Of course, we’ll be a mockery to everyone else in the process, but eventually, what’s being done to the younger generation will have it’s comeuppance. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/77 "2016-11-09T17:17:31Z")
You have certainly done away with any moral high ground you were clinging on to. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/78 "2016-11-09T17:56:32Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > Get over your Brexit nonsense before you go around lecturing other people, jackass. You’ve got your own boiled ham in a wig over there,. Brexit didn’t give the nuclear football to an egomaniacal gameshow host. ---
**Author:** ![Nietzsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8dc957/32.png) [@Nietzsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nietzsche)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/79 "2016-11-09T18:19:52Z")
To those “angry” Americans who voted for Trump, I hope you get everything you deserve. **MEB** , your scorched earth" approach suggestion is understandable, of course, considering how the Republican mantra has officially been “one term President” and stopping Obama in every way. However, you must admit that the American left is too fechless and incompetent to pull such a policy off successfully. Please do keep in mind the American left now has zero majority or much power in any way. Your best hope is to continue to play compromise games and letting the Republicans make America great again. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170/80 "2016-11-09T18:28:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The checks and balances will all be tipped to the right. We lived through Bush with a republican congress and an illegal war and Scalia on the court. We will survive Trump with a Republican congress that doesn’t really seem to like him and an isolationist stance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-usa/771170.md?page=5)