# I pit the Virginia Primary (statewide party races) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-virginia-primary-statewide-party-races/308420 "2005-06-15T18:45:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-virginia-primary-statewide-party-races/308420/21 "2005-06-16T18:37:00Z")
> [@Apos](#): > > Just as long as you stick to fiscal conservatism and don’t run on a platform of giving anesthesia to first trimester aborted fetuses or barring same sex people from making legal contracts with each other just in the hope chance that it might screw gays, I’ll keep an eye out for you. And none of this trying to legislate how much underwear a guy can show above his waistband, either. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-virginia-primary-statewide-party-races/308420/22 "2005-06-16T18:43:46Z")
> [@Steve MB](#): > > There is a fundamental priority of fiscal conservatism over social conservatism. If _Maxim_ shows too much skin, I can just not read it; if _Deadwood_ includes too much cussing, I can just not watch it. However, if taxes get too high, I can’t just not pay them. > > The GOP doesn’t seem to grok this basic point. If Maxim is seen as destroying society there’s nothing anyone can do to “not” be part of it. Likewise, civil rights issues like allowing gay people to live normal, even public, lives radically change our society for the better in the long term. And on the other hand, while there’s lots of flashy talk about taxes, spending is really all that matters, and I don’t seriously see much real difference in either party, Virginia or elsewhere, in that respect. No matter who gets elected in 2005, I doubt very much that the long term tax burden on Virginians will change very much at all. Republicans tend to cause havoc and uncertainty with their wacky tax schemes that sell really well as campaign slogans (like Gilmore’s “no car tax” carnival: "hey, let’s pretend to lower a local tax by reimbursing localities out of the state budget! OMG…what the, a massive state deficit and the bond rating under threat? How could that have happened!!?), but when it comes to making the cuts that actually affect the long term cost of government… not so much. If you don’t cut spending, cutting overall taxes is almost exactly like reducing your monthly payment to pay off your credit card bill: less to pay now just means more to pay later. So I think there’s a case to be made that the GOP is groking things just fine: they just have a different idea of what’s important and what’s at stake. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-virginia-primary-statewide-party-races/308420/23 "2005-06-17T13:44:08Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > Did the whole damn state of Pennsylvania move down here? It sure seems that way. > > I grew up in Pittsburgh, and there’s a Steeler bar right in my neighborhood in Prince William County. When I lived in Virginia Beach, there were a couple of them. Yeah, there’s a couple down here still, one just a few blocks off of the Oceanfront. North Hills HS grad here, early '80s. And I know of a dozen or so from my class alone that are living or working in The Old Dominion. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-virginia-primary-statewide-party-races/308420/24 "2005-06-17T14:17:00Z")
> [@Sean Factotum](#): > > Yeah, there’s a couple down here still, one just a few blocks off of the Oceanfront. That would be Bubba’s Beach Club. I used to live in there as a young sailor - the nice folks who worked there would have my beer uncapped before I got to the bar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-virginia-primary-statewide-party-races/308420.md?page=1)