# I pit the world and me and you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164 "2008-06-16T23:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/61 "2008-06-17T06:46:05Z")
[QUOTE=vibrotronica] I hate me and you. [/QUOTE] “I hate you You hate me We’re a dysfunctional family With a great big smack And a punch from me to you Won’t you say you hate me too?” ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/62 "2008-06-17T10:51:29Z")
I can simultaneously condemn the amoral universe and defend it. Because it’s all we have. > [@](#): > > A tiger gave chase to a monk who had been walking peacefully near a cliff, and the monk, running as fast as he could, had no choice but to leap off the edge of the cliff to avoid being eaten. He was able, as he leapt, to grab hold of a vine trailing over the cliff. He dangled in mid-air with the tiger snarling at him overhead and under him a very long fall into a rushing river full of boulders. Then he noticed a mouse gnawing at the vine. He also noticed, growing out of a cleft in a rock in front of him, a strawberry plant with one ripe berry. He ate it. He said, “This is a very good strawberry.” ---
**Author:** ![MovingTarget](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@MovingTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovingTarget)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/63 "2008-06-17T12:22:09Z")
Originally posted by **2.5** > [@](#): > > We live in an amoral universe well merry fuckin’ christmas to you to But to be serious now for a second. I rarely respond to anything you say because I hate feeding fucking trolls, but this just burns my ass. In your little dream that you’re suggesting here, everyone gives up ANY and EVERY little bit of extravagance they have and put that money towards helping those less fortunate. Bull FUCKING shit man. Maybe for some of us, the little extra things in life are about all we have to keep going. Would I start giving up some of my little girls toys because, well, she really only needs a few sticks and rocks to bang around with? fuck no. Would I give up my nice BBQ grill and all my fishing stuff and golf clubs just so I could throw a little more money to a charity? again fuck no. Would I sell the actually very small amout of jewelery I’ve bought my wife over the years and donate that money to a third world country? F to the N again. If you are REAAAAAALLY worried about this so fucking much that your spouting all this mindless drivel about it, then do something more. How bout starting with being a decent fucking human being. You’d be very suprised at just how many people might be effeted by this. What this world needs is more people who just try to make ANYTHING better. For all the shit you’re spouting, and all the shit you’ve spouted before, when’s the last time you just said “hi, how are you today” to a random stranger? Whens the last time your trollish ass held the door open for anyone besides your damn self? When’s the last time you did anything other than start bullshit trolling topics on a message board? grow the fuck up man. and to everyone else, sorry bout that, just finally hit my breaking point with this trollish fucker MT ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/64 "2008-06-17T13:02:49Z")
In a nutshell **MT** , in a nutshell ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/65 "2008-06-17T13:50:09Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Look at the waste of [this](http://www.dubaigolf.com/egc/) or this. [/QUOTE] Please don’t steal from George Carlin. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/66 "2008-06-17T13:51:19Z")
Okay, you’re bitching about how people play golf when the world isn’t perfect? What the fuck are YOU doing then, to be able to dispel this vitriol on people who play golf or water their lawns or own a car or whatever? Do you not own a car? Do you not water your grass (if you own a home) or water plants? Wash said car? Do you own a TV? Video games? Books? More clothes than you need? Ever throw away food? Anything else you don’t NEED? Do you donate money to these causes? Quit your fucking bitching and actually DO something instead, if you actually care. I think this is just an attempt to get people to yell at you, must you must get off on if you try so damn hard for it to happen. The world sucks. The world has ALWAYS sucked. And it always WILL suck. Boo the fuck hoo. Either make a change or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/67 "2008-06-17T14:44:08Z")
[QUOTE=threemae] I don’t think that even **2.5** has merited a comment that nasty. [/QUOTE] It’s not a nasty statement - it’s a true one. If he finds existence in this universe hateful, he can seek it elsewhere. If I honestly believed he was actually depressed and contemplating suicide, I’d recommend counseling, but since I don’t, I won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/68 "2008-06-17T14:49:22Z")
[QUOTE=Dr. Drake] This is a good question. I have a car. If I give it up RIGHT NOW, how many people could I save? Zero, I think. [/QUOTE] Bet you’d run over a few less kittens though. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/69 "2008-06-17T15:13:11Z")
> [@His Hissing Lizard Majestey](#): > > Hey, what’s wrong with me? Same thing that’s wrong with me. > [@Inner Stickler](#): > > I hate you but you hate yourself too > I hate to be honest but I’d hate to be you ~The Bloodhound Gang Bloodhound Gang? Hate 'em. > [@Der Tries](#): > > “I hate you > You hate me > We’re a dysfunctional family > With a great big smack > And a punch from me to you > Won’t you say you hate me too?” Way ahead of you. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/70 "2008-06-17T16:00:26Z")
[QUOTE=myskepticsight] Okay, you’re bitching about how people play golf when the world isn’t perfect? What the fuck are YOU doing then, to be able to dispel this vitriol on people who play golf or water their lawns or own a car or whatever? Do you not own a car? Do you not water your grass (if you own a home) or water plants? Wash said car? Do you own a TV? Video games? Books? More clothes than you need? Ever throw away food? Anything else you don’t NEED? Do you donate money to these causes? Quit your fucking bitching and actually DO something instead, if you actually care. I think this is just an attempt to get people to yell at you, must you must get off on if you try so damn hard for it to happen. The world sucks. The world has ALWAYS sucked. And it always WILL suck. Boo the fuck hoo. Either make a change or shut up. [/QUOTE] I did pit myself, too. I am as selfish as anyone. No real change is possible. I do try to make the world better, but I am notwilling to give up luxuries like a TV, a computer, books, nice meat and cheese, and all the other goodies. We only get one life, and for many people it will be a life of suffering. Look at these children: [http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t012/T012546A.jpg](http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t012/T012546A.jpg) Is a pair of Gap jeans more important than getting children like this food? The only answer is yes, because that is how the world works. That sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/71 "2008-06-17T16:03:50Z")
[QUOTE=vibrotronica] Same thing that’s wrong with me. [/QUOTE] Oh, you’re an underemployed, epileptic reptile, too? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/72 "2008-06-17T16:24:58Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] No real change is possible. [/QUOTE] So what’s next on the “bitch about things that cannot be changed” agenda? A scintillating discourse on the hazards of gravity? An essay on the unfairness of entropy? And what’s the deal with the weak nuclear force? Get to a gym, already, ya lazy bum! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/73 "2008-06-17T16:30:16Z")
[QUOTE=vibrotronica] I hate me and you. [/QUOTE] What about the dog named Boo? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/74 "2008-06-17T16:36:01Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I did pit myself, too. I am as selfish as anyone. No real change is possible. [/QUOTE] Man, it _is_ possible. But sometimes it’s like, you know, all in pennies. _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/75 "2008-06-17T16:52:39Z")
I say we ship golf clubs and balls to Africa. No tees, though, screw those guys. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/76 "2008-06-17T17:12:23Z")
[QUOTE=Bosstone] I say we ship golf clubs and balls to Africa. No tees, though, screw those guys. [/QUOTE] Typical misguided western do-gooders. Without golf bags and electric carts, what good are they? ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/77 "2008-06-17T17:14:57Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] We only get one life [/QUOTE] Right. How about answering my previous question, then? [QUOTE=Fuji] Is it better if all people are hungry or only most? [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/78 "2008-06-17T17:28:42Z")
Real change is possible. I see it every day. Appreciate it when you see it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/79 "2008-06-17T17:29:10Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] Somebody needs a hug. [/QUOTE] He’s just having a bad case of the Mondays. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164/80 "2008-06-17T17:29:34Z")
[QUOTE=Fuji] Right. How about answering my previous question, then? [/QUOTE] It is better if only most are hungry. But we could make less people hungry if people cared as much about other people as our own selfish desires. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-world-and-me-and-you/453164.md?page=5)