# I Pit thee, evaporated cane juice!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 24, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227 "2009-02-24T17:35:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/21 "2009-02-25T00:11:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#):
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> You are both partly correct. Glass bottles help a lot. But HFCS has a different “mouth feel” to some and also a slightly different flavor.
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> Here’s my conspiracy theory reason why they changed (besides slightly cheaper)- _you drink more_. HFCS has an extremely low “satiety” rating, thus you drink more. I give as my exhibit the huge current sizes, whereas in the past _“16 ounces, that’s a lot”._
A Dutch study [disagrees.](http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/HFCS-drinks-no-different-to-sucrose-milk-for-satiety)
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### Author:  [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/22 "2009-02-25T00:17:21Z")
Nice cite, but there’s quite a few studies on Google scholar that seem to think otherwise. Admitedly it’s still in dispute.
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/23 "2009-02-25T00:55:21Z")
> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Nice cite, but there’s quite a few studies on Google scholar that seem to think otherwise. Admitedly it’s still in dispute.
I’m a little surprised myself, as a respected physician friend of mine who deals with the obesity epidemic does seem to think that HFCS has lower satiety than sucrose. I list that site because when I was searching for HFCS and sucrose double-blind studies, I came across a number of links that seemed to suggest what the above article reports. Admittedly, I was only skimming, so they may all cite the same study.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/24 "2009-02-25T03:17:03Z")
> [@SuaSponte](#):
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> In the latest “Americans are stupid, let’s take advantage!” trend I’ve noticed, more and more products in the supermarket now contain “evaporated cane juice” (or even better, “organic evaporated cane juice”).
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> Marketing dudes, we know what it is - it’s freaking SUGAR!!!
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> Sua
As others suggest, I thought there was a slight difference: evaporated cane juice to me sounds as though the molasses hasn’t been removed. The health differences would be virtually nonexistent (there might be a trace of a trace of trace minerals left behind), but there could be a flavor difference.
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### Author:  [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/25 "2009-02-25T03:50:25Z")
The evaporated cane juice still has some molasas taste, like brown sugar. To me that makes it seem a little sweeter, so I use about half as much.
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/26 "2009-02-25T04:12:12Z")
Interesting. It looks like Pepsi will be launching sugar versions of their [cola and Mountain Dew](http://consumerist.com/5155721/attn-hfcs-haters-get-ready-for-sugar+sweetened-pepsi-throwback) sometime in April.
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/27 "2009-02-25T04:30:14Z")
> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Interesting. It looks like Pepsi will be launching sugar versions of their [cola and Mountain Dew](http://consumerist.com/5155721/attn-hfcs-haters-get-ready-for-sugar+sweetened-pepsi-throwback) sometime in April.
Of course. What’s the meme? Sugar = gooooood. HFCS = baaaaaaad.
I WONDER how well this SHIT will SELL after I put my TASTE TEST VIDEOS on YOUTUBE and prove to everyone that they’re paying MORE for something that tastes EXACTLY THE SAME!!! MUHAHAHAHA!!!
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/28 "2009-02-25T06:46:03Z")
> [@Cisco](#):
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> Of course. What’s the meme? Sugar = gooooood. HFCS = baaaaaaad.
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> I WONDER how well this SHIT will SELL after I put my TASTE TEST VIDEOS on YOUTUBE and prove to everyone that they’re paying MORE for something that tastes EXACTLY THE SAME!!! MUHAHAHAHA!!!
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There’s absolutely no doubt it’s a marketing ploy. Still, I’m curious.
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/29 "2009-02-25T07:20:00Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> I was never fooled by these new labels. How stupid do they think we are?
Plenty stupid. And they’re right, much of the time. I almost got into a shouting match with someone – a very educated, somewhat politically powerful person – at a party because he insisted that brown sugar was a healthier alternative to white.
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/30 "2009-02-25T23:05:27Z")
> [@Cat Fight](#):
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> I almost got into a shouting match with someone – a very educated, somewhat politically powerful person – at a party because he insisted that brown sugar was a healthier alternative to white.
Technically, theoretically, nitpickingly, he might have been a little bit right in principle although not to any detectable extent in practice. Most brown sugar is made by adding molasses to regular white sugar, and the molasses does have what **LHoD** called “a trace of the trace minerals” (iron, magnesium, potassium) that refined white sugar doesn’t have. But the amount of those minerals that you’re likely to get from the typical portion of brown sugar in baked goods or something is pretty minute.
However, now that you know this, you’ll never have to buy brown sugar again. Just get a jar of ordinary molasses, which keeps forever, and use 2 tablespoons of molasses to a half cup of white sugar: voila, one-half cup of brown sugar, fresh and tasty. (Double molasses amount if “dark brown sugar” is called for.)
Voila, no more having to buy wastefully packaged boxes of brown sugar that never contain exactly the amount you need so there’s always some left over that sits in the cupboard until it dries out and acquires the consistency of a brick so you can’t use it for anything requiring volume measurement.
Mix your freshly-made molassy-brown sugar with a little balsamic vinegar to make a glaze for sliced fresh strawberries: toss strawberries in glaze and let them sit for about half an hour. Oooooh yummy yummy yumyumyum (sorry, I skipped lunch today so I’m vulnerable to food thoughts).
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### Author:  [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/31 "2009-02-26T08:15:54Z")
> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Interesting. It looks like Pepsi will be launching sugar versions of their [cola and Mountain Dew](http://consumerist.com/5155721/attn-hfcs-haters-get-ready-for-sugar+sweetened-pepsi-throwback) sometime in April.
Ewww. Sugar sweetened Mountain Dew tastes nothing like the chemically goodness of Mountain Dew. Really.
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/32 "2009-02-26T08:38:39Z")
> [@DrDeth](#):
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> But HFCS has a different “mouth feel” to some and also a slightly different flavor.
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> -
Every time I drink American Coke, it feels soft, almost blunted. It lacks the pleasant little “bite” I get from cane sugar Coke - glass \*or \*plastic bottled.
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### Author:  [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-evaporated-cane-juice/487227/33 "2009-02-26T14:09:53Z")
> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Voila, no more having to buy wastefully packaged boxes of brown sugar that never contain exactly the amount you need so there’s always some left over that sits in the cupboard until it dries out and acquires the consistency of a brick so you can’t use it for anything requiring volume measurement.
Alternately, brown sugar’s moistness can be restored by putting a piece of non-glazed terra cotta, soaked in water beforehand for maybe a half hour and then dabbed off, into the sealed container with the hard sugar and covered again. The sugar will absorb the moisture and be good to use again.
Apple slices or a slice of fresh bread, left overnight, will do the trick as well, but the terra cotta can be reused indefinitely and one “dose” of water will last quite a while.
Or if you need the brown sugar **now**. just carefully microwave it 30 seconds or so at a time, watching closely to make sure you don’t melt the sugar.
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