# I pit thee, women's clothing and undergarments! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249 "2006-02-27T01:38:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/41 "2006-02-27T21:08:49Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Phht. Yeah. Three. > > HUNDRED. All at once? 'Cause if you could get all of their bras off at once, I suspect you’d be the new Dope idol. E. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/42 "2006-02-27T21:27:23Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > An aside, but what was spur-of-the-moment sex like in the 1800’s like? how long did it take to remove a corset, multiple petticoats, bloomers, etc.? Must have really killed spontanaety! Going further back-take the time of casanova-removing cloths probably took all day! What _remove_? You did then what you do now…tug, loosen, pull to the side or otherwise free the necessary areas of attack and get on with it. Anybody who was a teenager who owned a Volkswagen could tell you that complete nudity was never even considered. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/43 "2006-02-27T22:00:16Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > An aside, but what was spur-of-the-moment sex like in the 1800’s like? how long did it take to remove a corset, multiple petticoats, bloomers, etc.? Must have really killed spontanaety! Going further back-take the time of casanova-removing cloths probably took all day! Then again, if you go further back to, say, Roman times, it probably took longer to put the toga back on after than to remove it. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/44 "2006-02-27T22:16:16Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > Then again, if you go further back to, say, Roman times, it probably took longer to put the toga back on after than to remove it. That’s what I thought, what with all the wrapping. I find a little fumbling to be endearing at times. It’s rather sweet when your guy is having a little trouble with your clothes, from nervousness, arousal, or both. Besides, it makes up for the fact that I can’t get someone’s belt unbuckled without help. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/45 "2006-02-27T22:47:24Z")
> [@Lissa](#): > > As a woman, I have discarded all complicated clothing… _cheers and whistles_ Oh, wait… you replaced it with simple clothing. Dang. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/46 "2006-02-27T22:52:12Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Anybody who was a teenager who owned a Volkswagen could tell you that complete nudity was never even considered. 😕 You were a teenager with a Volkswagen back in the 1800’s? 😉 Said a man of his small Morris Minor: “For petting, it couldn’t be finer, But for love’s consummation A wagon called station Would offer a playground diviner.” ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/47 "2006-02-27T22:53:48Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > An aside, but what was spur-of-the-moment sex like in the 1800’s like? how long did it take to remove a corset, multiple petticoats, bloomers, etc.? Must have really killed spontanaety! Going further back-take the time of casanova-removing cloths probably took all day! In the Victorian age, bloomers usually had an opening between the legs\* so the lady could answer a call of nature without having to fumble endlessly with her clothing. I’m sure that many a man took advantage of his wife’s crotchless drawers. Before that, ladies didn’t usually wear any sort of underpants. They wore multiple petticoats, and stockings with garters, but other than that, they were as bare as an egg beneath their skirts. - Sometimes, they were constucted like two tubes of fabric sewn to a waist band, with the inside of the upper thigh cut away a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/48 "2006-02-27T23:44:22Z")
Just rip the clothes off. It’ll be really hot and passionate, AND she’ll eventually start wearing more practical clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/49 "2006-02-28T00:23:20Z")
> [@1920s Style](#): > > Just rip the clothes off. It’ll be really hot and passionate, AND she’ll eventually start wearing more practical clothes. First **Mtgman** and now you! Guys, I have to warn you that this might not really be the best strategy for a satisfying sexual experience. No matter how attracted she is to you, she might not be thrilled about having her favorite blouse or dress ruined, or even a fancy piece of lingerie. Even if she doesn’t mind it the first time, what will you do for an encore? Are you just planning to go on tearing her clothes off at every subsequent romantic encounter? Do you really want to become known all over campus as “Jack the Ripper”? Is that really going to get you more dates? Plus if you follow **Mtgman** ’s advice about paying for replacements like a gentleman, this could end up costing you serious bux. A decent-quality fancy bra can run you $20–$30 or more: ouch! Shoot, even a fancy pair of stockings can cost close to that much. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/50 "2006-02-28T00:38:01Z")
> [@1920s Style "Death Ray"](#): > > Just rip the clothes off. It’ll be really hot and passionate, AND she’ll eventually start wearing more practical clothes. Haven’t you heard Bill Engvall on this? _This never works. If there isn’t already a rip in them, they don’t tear. Then you’re just yankin’ on their underwear. “Thanks for the wedgie, Romeo.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/51 "2006-02-28T01:31:18Z")
I don’t see what the big deal is. I just leave all that stuff on. Why bother? In my experience, 30 seconds later she’s just going to have to put it back on again. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/52 "2006-02-28T02:23:37Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > They do? I don’t. And I’m just wondering why a woman who plans on having sex that evening would wear pantyhose. That’s the anti-hot. > > I’ve got cold hard cash for anyone who can figure out the sock thing, though. I put 6 pairs in, I get 5 pairs and a spare out. I buy socks at least once a month. Amen to this. “What’s that you say? You’ve had your feet and your ass in the same nylon bag all day? Well I can’t wait to get in there!” Okay, it’s not that bad, but still. Do 7th and 8th-graders no longer snap brastraps? With the exception of a couple corset-bustier type things, they all work on the same simple principle. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/53 "2006-02-28T05:23:05Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > Do 7th and 8th-graders no longer snap brastraps? With the exception of a couple corset-bustier type things, they all work on the same simple principle. That probably forbidden today, as a form of sexual harassment. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/54 "2006-02-28T12:42:05Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > “What’s that you say? You’ve had your feet and your ass in the same nylon bag all day? Well I can’t wait to get in there!” Okay, it’s not that bad, but still. To be fair, if your date’s wearing one of those very short or high-slit skirts to let you see her legs (which most guys don’t seem to complain about!), she’s pretty much stuck with wearing pantyhose. Bare legs just don’t go with most shoes and most skirts, especially when it’s not summer, and exposed thigh-highs or garters under a short or slit skirt are generally still considered a little too slutty-looking for wearing in public. Personally, I think the somewhat longer skirts with stockings and garters are the best option. They’re actually more comfortable and convenient than pantyhose, too (we all know that despite what you see in lingerie ads, the underpants, if any, actually go on **over** the garters, right?). **And** if you get a run in one of the stockings, you don’t have to throw out both of them! ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/55 "2006-02-28T17:00:43Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Ah, but when women remove them, they move the hook around back to front, and then use two hands. During the throes of passion, there is no suave way for a man to do this. Trying to do this either one-handed or with one’s teeth becomes an engineering nightmare. Wtf, who takes their bra off that way?? I don’t even put my bra ON that way, I put it on the way it’s worn, reach around back and fasten it without looking at it. It’s not rocket science, people, it’s a bra. ---
**Author:** ![Sutremaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sutremaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sutremaine)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/56 "2006-02-28T17:28:01Z")
Just borrow one of her bras, bundle up some towels until the bra fits nicely, and then have at it. The trick to removing hook-and-eye bras with one hand is to pin down one side with your thumb (or finger. I can’t remember which side is which and I’m wearing a sports bra at the moment) and slide your finger (or thumb) over the other digit, making sure you’re pressing hard enough not to just slide over the fabric. It’s less complicated than it sounds, really. It’s just like rubbing the outside of your finger with your thumb, except there’s fabric and flesh involved. Careful if you have short nails though, as those hooks can easily slip under the nail and dig into the quick. I’ve drawn blood that way, which is why I use two hands to undo my bra despite the fiddliness. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/57 "2006-02-28T18:11:41Z")
> [@Cerri](#): > > Wtf, who takes their bra off that way?? Almost every single woman I’ve been intimate with. That’s over three hundred, simultaneously. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/58 "2006-02-28T18:21:26Z")
> [@Cerri](#): > > Wtf, who takes their bra off that way?? I don’t even put my bra ON that way, I put it on the way it’s worn, reach around back and fasten it without looking at it. > > It’s not rocket science, people, it’s a bra. I do put mine on that way, but there’s no need to take it off like that–really, it’s just a waste of time. It’s easier to put it on, because it’s awkward to try and fiddle with the catch behind your back, especially if it has a double or triple hook. But to take it off? Easy as pie. Even my boyfriend can do it after a little practice. Maybe that’s your problem, boys, you haven’t practised enough 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Seren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@Seren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seren)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/59 "2006-02-28T18:55:15Z")
> [@Jayn\_Newell](#): > > I do put mine on that way, but there’s no need to take it off like that–really, it’s just a waste of time. It’s easier to put it on, because it’s awkward to try and fiddle with the catch behind your back, especially if it has a double or triple hook. But to take it off? Easy as pie. Even my boyfriend can do it after a little practice. Maybe that’s your problem, boys, you haven’t practised enough 😛 Seconded. And maybe you need to talk to **Praetor** , the Bra-Removing Wonder. He can unhook mine without me even knowing. He’s also usually faster at unhooking than I am. (Guess he’s got more incentive 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249/60 "2006-02-28T19:39:20Z")
Alexander Pope put it best some centuries ago. _But if to charms more latent you pretend What lines encompass and what works defend! Dangers on dangers, obstacles by dozens, Spies, guardians, guests, old women, aunts and cousins._ **Could you directly to her person go, Stays will obstruct above and hoops below, And if the dame says yes, the dress says no!** From one of the Imitations of Horace [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-thee-womens-clothing-and-undergarments/346249.md?page=4)