# I pit those who implied that Hillary Clinton faked her concussion to avoid the Senate inquiry

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**Created:** [December 31, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623 "2012-12-31T02:02:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/21 "2012-12-31T16:40:31Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Now she’s hospitalized with a blood clot stemming from that concussion. Sitting congressmen were among those who made such accusations..

Names, please.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/22 "2012-12-31T16:48:18Z")

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Some articles on conservatives who implied Hilary was faking her concussion:

> **[8 People Who Thought Hillary Clinton Was Faking Her Concussion](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/people-who-thought-hillary-clinton-was-faking-her)**
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> The Secretary of State was hospitalized Sunday night with a blood clot.

> **[Will Republicans apologize for accusing Hillary Clinton of faking her...](https://theweek.com/articles/469115/republicans-apologize-accusing-hillary-clinton-faking-concussion)**
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> The secretary of state has been admitted to the hospital for a potentially serious blood clot

[http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/12/conservatives-think-hillary-clinton-faking-her-concussion/60114/](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/12/conservatives-think-hillary-clinton-faking-her-concussion/60114/)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/23 "2012-12-31T16:51:37Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Names, please.

[Allen West.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fox-news-guests-call-hillary-concussion-fake-article-1.1224556)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/24 "2012-12-31T17:12:53Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Oh yeah there are some fucking nutters. And they will never let anything go. But seriously aksing here, did it not START out sorta like I described? (which sounds cheesy as shit IMO).

I don’t think it did, and since you don’t believe this crap, you should let this go. The idea that she was trying to get out of the hearings never made any sense because Congress always could have subpoenaed her later or spoken to her deputies instead (which I think is what happened). Shit like this is annoying because dumb people mistake it for actual skepticism.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/25 "2012-12-31T17:12:55Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> [Allen West.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fox-news-guests-call-hillary-concussion-fake-article-1.1224556)

Oh, he accused her of faking the flu, not the concussion. Not quite what the OP was talking about, but I guess close enough for government work. Still, that’s sorta yesterday’s news.

Who are the others? The OP used the plural.

**madmonk** : Are any of those “sitting congressmen”?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/26 "2012-12-31T17:18:56Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Oh, he accused her of faking the flu, not the concussion.

Two problems with that: a few days earlier she’d canceled a trip to the Middle East because of the flu, which would mean she was skipping out on work just to create a cover story - and that would probably be worse than just faking illness - and as far as I know, even after her illness was disclosed she was still expected to testify at the Benghazi hearing. That wasn’t changed until after she fainted and hurt herself.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Oh yeah there are some fucking nutters. And they will never let anything go…  
> As far as I can tell it started like one of those murder mysteries where the guy is caught hovering over the body with a knife in his hand covered in blood. Then eventually, the true killer is caught and the original suspect is all pissed anybody suspected him, when any normal person would also be like “well, no shit you suspected me because it looked pretty damn bad”.

What a country we’ve become when a high-ranking government official has an accident and the default assumption by the disloyal opposition is that it was faked for political purpose. Please take a moment and think about it, and ask yourself if these are the politics you want for your country.

I pit the people who stoop so low into their own shit as to think that way. AFAICT from the post above, that includes you, **billfish678** , you friggin’ dingbat.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/28 "2012-12-31T17:27:38Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Oh, he accused her of faking the flu, not the concussion. Not quite what the OP was talking about, but I guess close enough for government work. Still, that’s sorta yesterday’s news.
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> Who are the others? The OP used the plural.
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> **madmonk** : Are any of those “sitting congressmen”?

I didn’t say that sitting congressmen made the claim. I said that Republicans are awful people and they are just awful: hateful, racists, dim witted, anti-science, with dreadful taste in art and clothing, plus they let fear be the defining feature of their lives. Fortunately, they are dying out and the GOP mostly consist of old men yelling at empty chairs.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/29 "2012-12-31T17:31:51Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I didn’t say that sitting congressmen made the claim.

I didn’t say you did.

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> I said that Republicans are awful people and they are just awful: hateful, racists, dim witted, anti-science, with dreadful taste in art and clothing, plus they let fear be the defining feature of their lives. Fortunately, they are dying out and the GOP mostly consist of old men yelling at empty chairs.

I’m sure some are. I’m sure many are. But most of my friends are Republicans, and none of them fits that description.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/30 "2012-12-31T17:38:04Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Oh, he accused her of faking the flu, not the concussion. Not quite what the OP was talking about, but I guess close enough for government work. Still, that’s sorta yesterday’s news.
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> Who are the others? The OP used the plural.

I may have been mistaken about Congressmen vs Congressman (or maybe not, but I don’t care to check). If my mistake caused you pain or discomfort, I apologize. Feel free to chalk this up as a win in your “nit successfully picked” column.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/31 "2012-12-31T17:44:22Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I may have been mistaken about Congressmen vs Congressman (or maybe not, but I don’t care to check). If my mistake caused you pain or discomfort, I apologize.

I had a stroke upon reading that. I had to type my reply with the little toe on my right foot.

I hope you’re happy!

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/32 "2012-12-31T17:45:34Z")

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mostly what’s been documented are lunatic rightwingers, so we can nitpick that, not that I doubt **iAndyii** might be able to document some congresscritters making this claim as well. I wonder if any of the idiots we did document will come out with some sort of “I was wrong”?  
Shall we have a contest to see which of us can hold our breath the longest?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/33 "2012-12-31T17:51:04Z")

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Allen West (already mentioned) is a sitting Congressman for a few more weeks. Granted he’s over there with Louie Gohmert and Joe Wilson in super-batshit land, but still.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/34 "2012-12-31T17:54:15Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> What a country we’ve become when a high-ranking government official has an accident and the default assumption by the disloyal opposition is that it was faked for political purpose.

You forgot to mention that it was a high-ranking government official who previously lied about getting shot at by snipers for political purpose.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/35 "2012-12-31T17:56:14Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> You forgot to mention that it was a high-ranking government official who previously lied about getting shot at by snipers for political purpose.

That justifies everything. Carry on and watch out for black helicopters.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/36 "2012-12-31T18:17:25Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> mostly what’s been documented are lunatic rightwingers, so we can nitpick that, not that I doubt **iAndyii** might be able to document some congresscritters making this claim as well. I wonder if any of the idiots we did document will come out with some sort of “I was wrong”?  
> Shall we have a contest to see which of us can hold our breath the longest?

Well, from my earlier links, the list includes:  
Former U.S. U.N. spokesman Richard Grenell  
The New York Post  
former US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton  
Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post columnist and Fox News pundit

These aren’t elements of the fringe of the GOP.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/37 "2012-12-31T18:57:45Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Except when it comes to being on trial. Which is what made it so dubious at the time.

She wasn’t on trial. She was to give testimony at a senate investigative hearing.  
There is a big fucking difference.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-implied-that-hillary-clinton-faked-her-concussion-to-avoid-the-senate-inquiry/645623/38 "2012-12-31T19:21:53Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Oh, he accused her of faking the flu, not the concussion. Not quite what the OP was talking about, but I guess close enough for government work. . .

Nicely done.

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I pit the people who stoop so low into their own shit as to think that way. AFAICT from the post above, that includes you, **billfish678** , you friggin’ dingbat.

Oh, but he was[Just Asking Questions.](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/JAQing_off)

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
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They’re called Fakers. They insist Hilary faked it. They demand hospital records, MRI images and samples of her blood.

The Faker movement goes back to the “assassination” of President Kennedy. Lacking skull fragments and brain matter, they insist JFK Is still alive.

:rolleyes:

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