# I pit those who rush to get in the train car **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468 "2013-02-26T21:29:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/21 "2013-02-27T15:52:02Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Squaring your shoulders and bowling forward is a decidedly inappropriate way to navigate through a crowded nightclub, Which is why I don’t do that. Did you misinterpret my post? Or am I misinterpretting yours? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/22 "2013-02-27T16:25:12Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Which is why I don’t do that. Did you misinterpret my post? Or am I misinterpretting yours? You misinterpreted mine; sorry, I didn’t make it clear that I agreed with you that polite requests are the best way to navigate through a nightclub. This is the pit. Aren’t you supposed to call me an idiot or something? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/23 "2013-02-27T16:28:44Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > This is the pit. Aren’t you supposed to call me an idiot or something? God bless you and him always!!! :):)🙂 sorry ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/24 "2013-02-27T16:43:48Z")
This phenomenon is not singular to train stations, but also exists in airports, grocery stores, shopping malls, city sidewalks, or anywhere else one might encounter moderate to large numbers of individuals. I don’t necessarily believe there is any malice aforethought; it’s just that many people seem completely oblivious to the fact that other people exist at all. This leads to the aforementioned train behavior and stopping at the top of the escalator; as well as sudden turns, stops, or \*backwards walking \*(yes, I see this often) through crowds without first checking for a clear pathway; parking shopping carts across store aisles; walking side-by-side in groups so as to take up the entire sidewalk and not even pretending to try to accomodate oncoming walkers; and any number of similar acts. TLDR version: People can be clueless idiots, all right. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/25 "2013-02-27T17:10:44Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I’ve done that, but a friendlier approach works a lot better. I don’t often get accused of being a friendly person. And I’m ok with that. 🆒 > [@KSO](#): > > And I don’t do any of the horseshit you said. Sorry. Meant that generically, not specifically. Wasn’t an accusation. But if the problem is on the ride to work, then I wasn’t sitting anyway (and my trip is about an hour). ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/26 "2013-02-27T17:19:48Z")
> [@TheCrow](#): > > How to solve this: > Pfff. I don’t know. Get a car? No. Train is comfy, quick and safe. When you have a car, you have to park it. Hard to find a available place to park my car. Bicycle? Not as fast as the train. But I love bicycling anyway. Have doors that are only exit doors and doors that are only entrance doors ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/27 "2013-02-27T17:25:05Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > TLDR version: People can be clueless idiots, all right. I have invented a new term/acronym. (Soon to be verbified, probably) CIM (pronounced “Kim”) Clueless Inobservant Moron. “Excuse me, CIM” “Um what? My name isn’t Kim!” “Right now it is.” ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/28 "2013-02-27T17:47:12Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > CIM (pronounced “Kim”) Clueless Inobservant Moron. Why not spell it klooless? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/29 "2013-02-27T18:00:52Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Have doors that are only exit doors and doors that are only entrance doors Do you really think commuters would put up with that? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/30 "2013-02-27T18:15:26Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Do you really think commuters would put up with that? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. There is a new policy on the street trolleys here. After a certain hour, only the front door of the train will open. That means that people in the back have to make their way all the way to the front. On the newer cars that means going up three steps and then down three more, at least. Not fun for people with suitcases or mobility issues. And because so many people have to step over so many other people to get out, each stop takes longer, thus slowing down the entire system. I’m wondering how much longer commuters will put up with that. So far I don’t hear a lot of complaints. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/31 "2013-02-27T19:12:28Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I don’t often get accused of being a friendly person. And I’m ok with that. 🆒 > Sorry. Meant that generically, not specifically. Wasn’t an accusation. But if the problem is on the ride to work, then I wasn’t sitting anyway (and my trip is about an hour). No worries. I actually do think the majority of people are genuinely oblivious, or have trained themselves to be oblivious. It’s the rest of the rabble who get under my skin. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/32 "2013-02-27T22:07:33Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Do you really think commuters would put up with that? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. I think if you made them into doors that swing instead of open apart, people would at least be forced to back off. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/33 "2013-02-27T22:13:41Z")
… And the very first time someone gets hit, massive lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/34 "2013-02-27T22:54:25Z")
I get annoyed by commuters who get off the train, then stop and turn around to see if their friend is exiting as well. I would assume that he or she is, since he or she was right behind you a second ago. This seems to happen frequently on my train when it reaches the station and the end of the line. A hundred or so people are all trying to get out of one door but have to negotiate around the one large, slow person in the huge coat carrying the big bag who turned around to continue to chat with the other large, slow person in the huge coat with the big backpack. Er, since this it the Pit, they’re all monkey pus, jerk knuckle, ass boils. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/35 "2013-02-27T23:50:31Z")
> [@TheCrow](#): > > Why you should wait for people inside to get out: > > - When all of you get in the car without letting people inside to get out, you increase the density of people in the carriage and therefore you make it difficult for people wanting to get out to exit the car. > - A couple of times some idiot rammed me into the car as I was trying to get out and because of that ramming I lost my balance and I was nearly falling into the gap between the car and the platform. > > Why these idiots have no respect for other people: > > - Arguably because: They are uncivilized. Or They don’t have manners. Or They glorify being an asshole. Or They are evil. Or They didn’t have parents teaching them how to act properly amongst other people or they didn’t have parents at all. Or a mix of some/all aforementioned reasons. Or for some other reasons. Not sure. > > How to solve this: > Pfff. I don’t know. Get a car? No. Train is comfy, quick and safe. When you have a car, you have to park it. Hard to find a available place to park my car. Bicycle? Not as fast as the train. But I love bicycling anyway. > > What maddens me: the amount of fucktards doing that. I hope all of them immediately die in excruciating pain, assholes. Where do you live? I’m curious because I’ve never seen this happen in Chicago (on the Metra or El). Everyone stands back to let people off and then they get on. Maybe we are more seasoned train riders here. Now, what drives me crazy in Chicago is on Michigan Avenue people don’t respect the walk light (and so try to walk on the hand when cars are trying to turn left and drive through them), so please don’t interpret my comment as just pro-Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/36 "2013-02-28T19:45:15Z")
I used to be a daily rider on BART, so I can look back fondly on my days of Bowling For Assholes. Like\*\* D\_Odds\*\*, I’m rather un-petite, and I’ve lost count of the number of times I’d push someone backwards off the train because they tried to jam in without letting us off. ---
**Author:** ![Kepler1571](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/db5fbb/32.png) [@Kepler1571](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kepler1571)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/37 "2013-02-28T20:18:32Z")
I thought NYC and the T had prepared me for the world’s stupidest subway riders, but DC is the worst. The tourists from “we don’t even have buses let alone subways” Fuckwitistan, Missouri don’t know the left/right rule and apparently can’t figure it out from watching other people, so every summer is an exercise in educating them. I have seen these morons try to swim against the traffic and actually get lifted up and pushed back onto the platform. Very satisfying. The other great thing is watching the obnoxious teen spawn of Mr. and Mrs. Fat Middle America jump on and off subways as the doors are closing, since inevitably somebody in the party fucks up and then Aunt Mildred’s off to Anacostia! ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/38 "2013-02-28T20:24:51Z")
THe tourists I forgive. They don’t know any better and are typically happy to comply with the rules once they’re educated. It’s the dimbulbs who are there every day and still can’t get it through their thick heads that you let people out before you get on. My strategy, which almost always works, is to say “excuse me” first, then “hey, let us out” (this one condescending), then I bang into them. When I was in law school there was one particular dude than I shouldered out of the way at least a dozen times before he got the hint. But eventually he did. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/39 "2013-02-28T22:36:07Z")
why u so… no enter and exit on opposite sides? ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468/40 "2013-02-28T23:12:54Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > People waiting for elevators are frequently idiots. As soon as the doors start to open, they start to move forward, without even waiting to see whether anyone is on the other side trying to get out. Then they act surprised when someone does pop out. I stand to the side of the doors for both elevators and train cars, and usually this works out just fine. However, the other day I was standing next to the elevator door, doors opened, no one was standing there, so I started to enter.. only to almost be run over by a person who ‘popped out’ from nowhere and nearly shoulder-checked me. Seriously, this person had to have been standing pressed into the corner of the elevator- making it look empty from my vantage point- to pull it off. Scared the crap out of me, it did. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-those-who-rush-to-get-in-the-train-car/651468.md?page=3)