# I pit Tollhouse

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 22, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431 "2013-04-22T20:19:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/21 "2013-04-22T22:47:49Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> ?

Was the string of question marks really necessary? No? Then stop doing that shit. If there was a question in there, I missed it because I was busy deleting your question marks. If there wasn’t a question, then don’t use a question mark. If there is a question, one question mark should suffice.

Do you understand?

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/22 "2013-04-22T23:46:56Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Does he at least make good cookies?

No. They’re dry and salty and he can’t be bothered to look up a correct recipe.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/23 "2013-04-23T00:12:43Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> So, we end up with [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688784), in which Tollhouse admits that they do not know a lot about computers, but Adam Lanza should not have been able to destroy a hard drive because he is a “skinny ass”.

A gun can destroy a hard drive quite effectively . . . if only Lanza had one of those . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/24 "2013-04-23T00:14:29Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I just want to know if “hir” is some neologism combining “him” and “her”.
> 
> I’m just asking questions!

No, and not to any previously known form of pre-op nor post-op, neither. This is an entirely new thing. Just pray you never meet hir.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/25 "2013-04-23T00:20:25Z")

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I first encountered the use of “hir” in a sci-fi novel in the late '90s.

I’m also relieved that this thread is not about cookies. The recipe on the bag is actually pretty decent.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/26 "2013-04-23T00:25:56Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I just want to know if “hir” is some neologism combining “him” and “her”.
> 
> I’m just asking questions!

Actually it is, occasionally used in fiction to refer to hermaphrodites.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/27 "2013-04-23T00:28:00Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> No. They’re dry and salty and he can’t be bothered to look up a correct recipe.

He couldn’t find one on the Daily Mail, the only website Trollhouse reads aside from this one. What a waste of ones and zeros, the user and the Fail.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/28 "2013-04-23T00:41:44Z")

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Why do you hate cookies? If you don’t like America, you kin giiit out! 😑

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/29 "2013-04-23T01:03:37Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> I have noticed that he really needs to brush up on his writing skills.

I have noticed this and commented on it before. I thought he was inebriated.

> [@Wolf333](#):
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> All I know is that Tollhouse is a dumbass.

However, I realized he wasn’t inebriated, just this. ^^

And has he even come around yet to telling anyone _what the fuck his point was_ in that whole “Lanza conspiracy” thread??

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/30 "2013-04-23T01:15:55Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> Why do you hate cookies? If you don’t like America, you kin giiit out! 😑

We don’t, we hate **tolls!** You’re gonna collect taxes from me **while I’m driving?!** How fuckin’ un-American can ya get?! George III never had such brass ones!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/31 "2013-04-23T01:54:12Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I really thought this was going to be about cookies.

Unfortunately not. Toll House cookies are full of chocolatey goodness, and **Tollhouse** … well, let’s just say there are ways to tell them apart.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/32 "2013-04-23T01:56:45Z")

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But both contain large amounts of dark brown stuff!

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/33 "2013-04-23T01:59:09Z")

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Re: **Tollhouse**

I like him. There, I said it. I don’t know why, exactly, but he is interesting.

You all jump on people as being trolls too quickly. For example, **PSXer** , when he started posting here, had a series of some of the most clever OPs in my memory. “My friend wants to know.” “Mental girlfriend.” Laserdiscs. That shit is genuis, but some people told him to shut up. They said he wasn’t funny. Well, nobody is laughing now!

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/34 "2013-04-23T05:44:54Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Re: **Tollhouse**
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> I like him. There, I said it. I don’t know why, exactly, but he is interesting.
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> You all jump on people as being trolls too quickly. For example, **PSXer** , when he started posting here, had a series of some of the most clever OPs in my memory. “My friend wants to know.” “Mental girlfriend.” Laserdiscs. That shit is genuis, but some people told him to shut up. They said he wasn’t funny. Well, nobody is laughing now!

**Tollhouse** is basically a female **PSXer**. Fortunately, I don’t think they’re smart enough to figure out how to reproduce.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/35 "2013-04-23T10:07:33Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> I’m waiting for hir to use the word “sheeple.”

Please, [don’t](http://xkcd.com/1013/).

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/36 "2013-04-23T10:59:28Z")

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> [@EverwonderWhy](#):
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> I have long wondered if Tollhouse even owns a computer.

Sadly I believe that is the consensus (not owning a computer). Last time I dinged him for his poor writing skills (and I usually don’t unless the errors start to detract from the easiness of reading their posts), he said that touchscreens are hard to type on. Also, I have never seen him provide a citation and I rarely see him use the “quote” button which is also annoying.

On a board that I have just started running, we actually have it as a warnable offense to use horrid writing skills if it is so bad that it looks like Yahoo! Answers or **Tollhouse** ’s or **shadowofneo** ’s posts.

Personally, I like him as a poster and find him interesting too, but his gross number of writing errors makes me skip over many of his posts. You should remember that while I believe that posts should be coherent and contain little or no writing errors, I very rarely call anyone out on it seriously unless it really starts to detract from easiness of reading, and unfortunately, that is what is happening with **Tollhouse** and **shadowofneo**.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/37 "2013-04-23T15:04:27Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Based on [this gem](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680476), originally posted in GQ, I’m going with troll. Note the thread was just abandoned after hir opened it.

No, hir posted some throwaway comment about skulls later on in that thread.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/38 "2013-04-23T15:26:03Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Based on [this gem](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680476), originally posted in GQ, I’m going with troll. Note the thread was just abandoned after hir opened it.

Wow.  
Can anybody confirm whether I was drinking at the end of January this year?

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**Author:** ![Snow\_Pea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Snow\_Pea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snow_Pea)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/39 "2013-04-23T20:20:00Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> On a board that I have just started running, we actually have it as a warnable offense to use horrid writing skills if it is so bad that it looks like Yahoo! Answers or **Tollhouse** ’s or **shadowofneo** ’s posts.\*\*.

He certainly made a trolly ass of himself in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16159494&postcount=113)thread. I mean, is _“fucking”_ that hard to spell? 😃

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-tollhouse/656431/40 "2013-04-23T20:34:11Z")

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> [@Snow\_Pea](#):
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> He certainly made a trolly ass of himself in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16159494&postcount=113)thread. I mean, is _“fucking”_ that hard to spell? 😃

What irritates me the most is incorrect punctuation and capitalization. I make spelling errors occasionally (especially if I am posting from a smartphone), and tolerate them to some extent. What really detracts from fluid reading is if you have run-on sentences that contain incorrect capitalization. That’s what irks me the most.

Oh, by the way, I just wanted to share this from my first thread on the SDMB when I tried using voice recognition to post from a smartphone:

> [@How many candies are in a jar - packing efficiency and volume?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-candies-are-in-a-jar-packing-efficiency-and-volume/637007/60):
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> Also the air density will matter when there are mass problems.like I said if someone told you that the jar is 1200 grams then you can take 80 percent of that, and then divide if I the average density. Remembers mass divided by density meet equals volume. find the average density you will need to know the density of the candy and the density of the air. If you know that then you can take 70 percent of the density of the candy times and add 30 percent are the density of the air to it which will give you the average density. Now this example assumes that the packing efficiency is 70% but it can and will be different for others.

> [@How many candies are in a jar - packing efficiency and volume?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-candies-are-in-a-jar-packing-efficiency-and-volume/637007/63):
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> [nitpick, for now]  
> **Anonymous** , be sure to be attentive to the English grammar and style of your sentences when presenting your assumptions and results. English follows a logic and has the opportunities for descriptive style that should match as closely as possible–and not just in a blow-by-blow way–the clarity of what you are thinking about in other symbols. Sometimes it can fight or conceal the points you may think are obvious in the math.  
> [/nitpick, for now]

> [@How many candies are in a jar - packing efficiency and volume?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-candies-are-in-a-jar-packing-efficiency-and-volume/637007/65):
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> I am sorry. I was typing on a smartphone using voice recognition.

> [@How many candies are in a jar - packing efficiency and volume?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-candies-are-in-a-jar-packing-efficiency-and-volume/637007/66):
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> :eek:Holy shit.

😃 Although, I admit it wasn’t purely voice recognition. I did go back and tried to fix some errors that I found.

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