# I Pit UltraVires

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477 "2021-06-17T16:57:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/101 "2021-06-18T07:15:10Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> MrDibble is a black guy.

I’m not, actually. I’m (very) mixed race ([Coloured](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloureds)) - I might be considered Black in the USA on visual inspection, but I don’t consider myself to have _enough_ Black African heritage for that to be accurate. If anything, I’m more mixed Asian/European, although there’s really everything except Native American and Pacific Islander in the family mix…

But having said that, I certainly _do_ know racism from the victimized side, intimately.

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> His post in the other thread mostly struck me as pedantic more than anything else. Like silly lawyering.

When are you motherfuckers going to get it through your thick skulls?

“Silly lawyering” by non-minorities around minority culture issues is _fucking **racist** _ in-and-of-itself.  
UV can fuck off and be pedantic about which mayonnaise brand goes best with his Wonderbread. Blacks’ living culture is not his intellectual playground to play silly pedant games with.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/102 "2021-06-18T07:34:17Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> And Dibbie isn’t a “subject matter expert” on anything, that requires erudition and intellect which he has never demonstrated. He’s been a raging asshole and trouble maker for like 15 years or so of reading his posts on this board.[…] I’ve never seen him contribute much of value to these boards.

Clearly a dumb-ass shit-poster who never comes to GQ or CS.

> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> nstead I can find threads even from 10 years ago

You mean when your racist chums Pedant and brazil were allowed to run rampant all over GD? Are those the “otherwise good” discussions you mean?

> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> he’s from one of the biggest hellhole countries on earth

🙄 Why do you motherfuckers always try and play this stupid “Third World hellhole” crap? I mean, we haven’t even had a coup attempt ever, never mind the last couple years… can you say the same?

Me, I’m posting from my Victorian terrace. Later I will pick up a coffee and muffin at MickeyD on my way to drop some kid’s furniture and toys off at a township daycare. Damn, what a hellhole.

> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I’m a conservative, who retired from a long career in government,

County dogcatcher was not “a career in government”, it was a sinecure for the guy they can’t trust to speak to anyone Other to himself without making bleating noises

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/103 "2021-06-18T14:00:58Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> UV can fuck off and be pedantic about which mayonnaise brand goes best with his Wonderbread.

I really shouldn’t laugh at this because it’s racist as hell. I really shouldn’t … ah, fuck it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/104 "2021-06-18T15:54:42Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Did anyone hear something ? Sounded like White noise.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> UV can fuck off and be pedantic about which mayonnaise brand goes best with his Wonderbread.

[Moderating]  
These posts are both insutling another poster over their race or ethnicity, which is not allowed under the board’s hate speech rule. Please avoid this sort of rhetoric in the future.

No warning issued.  
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/105 "2021-06-18T16:25:30Z")

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For what it’s worth, @MrDibble , I value your input. I know there’s no risk of either @Martin_Hyde or @UltraVires running you off the board, but don’t let them get to you.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/106 "2021-06-18T16:30:17Z")

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Neither of us is trying to run him off the board. But someone who is incapable of actually discussing things in a civil matter, who repeatedly starts fights in a number of threads based on his uncompromising and absolutist views, and who then gets ragey about them is a low quality poster.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/107 "2021-06-18T17:07:21Z")

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Oh, I’m not going anywhere. I’ll just take note of the moderation and adjust accordingly.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/108 "2021-06-18T17:08:22Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> who repeatedly starts fights in a number of threads based on his uncompromising and absolutist views

“Racism is bad”, _so_ uncompromising and absolutist…

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/109 "2021-06-18T17:16:48Z")

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More like anything your dumb ass calls racism is bad, which isn’t the same thing as “racism is bad.”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/110 "2021-06-18T17:20:02Z")

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Of course a racist and genocide denialist like you is going to say that.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/111 "2021-06-18T17:20:35Z")

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And of course an idiot like you is going to keep calling everything you disagree with racism and genocide denial. And thus the world goes round and round.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/112 "2021-06-18T17:22:44Z")

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Naah, just the racism and genocide denial that you and UV have freely been exposing, all unaided like.

So helpful.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/113 "2021-06-18T17:23:28Z")

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Yes, the racism and genocide denial I multiple times asked for proof of and no one could do so–since it was a made up bullshit lie. But liars have trouble not lying, so it isn’t surprising.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/114 "2021-06-18T17:27:59Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> Yes, the racism and genocide denial I multiple times asked for proof of and no one could do so

That’s a … unique view of your ass getting pwned.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/115 "2021-06-18T17:54:16Z")

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I think a lot of your anger comes largely because most posters on this board give you a lot of leeway. You get mad, throw a little baby tantrum. And everyone is like “oh wow I must have been out of line.” But then you and little apparatchiks of yours like Euphonious start posting blatant lies saying I “deny genocide” with literally zero proof. And instead of curling into a ball, I simply, and repeatedly, ask for any evidence at all I have denied genocide. **None has ever been presented.**

On this board, which is about fighting ignorance, you are a poster who is literally refusing to engage or present evidence for claims made. All your little ragey bullshit, all your little racist comments that already got you mod noted isn’t going to change that.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/116 "2021-06-18T17:57:49Z")

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He’s right you know.

He’s really not a genocide denier.

What he is is a genocide advocate.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/117 "2021-06-18T17:59:53Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> None has ever been presented.

Oh, it was presented.

You just denied it. I guess denial is a habit for you now.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/118 "2021-06-18T18:05:12Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I think a lot of your anger comes largely because most posters on this board give you a lot of leeway

You think he’s angry BECAUSE he sometimes gets what he wants? That’s… an unusual reason to get angry. You might want to explore other possibilities.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/119 "2021-06-18T18:12:07Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> > [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> > None has ever been presented.
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> Oh, it was presented.
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> You just denied it. I guess denial is a habit for you now.

It has literally not been presented even once.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> > I think a lot of your anger comes largely because most posters on this board give you a lot of leeway
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> You think he’s angry BECAUSE he sometimes gets what he wants? That’s… an unusual reason to get angry. You might want to explore other possibilities.

[Paragraph (english-for-students.com)](http://www.english-for-students.com/Paragraph.html)

I thought this might help you–this is a primer on the English language for students. It explains what a paragraph is and how a paragraph might be constructed about a given topic. While it may not be true in all languages, in English if you take part of a paragraph in isolation (or even just part of a sentence as you did) it can change or confuse the meaning.

I would suggest studying that page and maybe working on forming and reading paragraphs of your own. This might enable you to understand the flow of the language and ways in which people communicate using the written word. I’m not an English teacher so I wouldn’t be able to help you per se, but this is an informative message board, on your journey learning the language I bet there are many people here who could help you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ultravires/944477/120 "2021-06-18T18:21:06Z")

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I would like to see a link or quote of Martin’s alleged genocide denial.

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