I pit WIC

She’s in Chicago.

From everything I’ve seen, yes.

Yes. That’s exactly right…it’s very expensive. This was the point of my OP.

Well, my kids get the “powdered crap,” so now do YOU feel superior? I sure hope so!

I looked it up at Walgreens.com, and it does appear to be very expensive. However, if, as Biggirl said, the powdered format doesn’t agree with some kids, then it is a legitimate reason to use the RTF. I glanced at a “formula” site last night and this problem isn’t exactly rare.

Also, I find it hard to believe that most women with limited funds would pay THAT much more for convenience if there wasn’t a good reason for it. Our “$2” scenario really wasn’t realistic.

Do I feel superior? In as much as I do not begrudge those who have less than I whatever comforts or needs that they can meet, yes. For the fact that I do not let pettiness rule my emotions, yes. That I am not filled with envy because some poor person uses RTF formula while I used liquid concentrate, hell yeah!

Some people look at personal hardships and say “I would hope that nobody else ever has to endure anything like that.”

Others look at them and say, “Why should anyone else have it any easier than I did?”

I never used the word envy. That’s not the emotion I feel.

But I have to hand it to you, Biggirl…if you live a life completely free of begrudging, pettiness, and envy then you are truly a better person than I. Some of us are mere mortals.

Um - this struck a nerve - I could afford to feed a sprog when I became pregnant. However, 6 weeks after that my husband lost his job and did not start another one until 2 weeks before Junior was born. Our finances were devastated.

Not everyone who needs assistance plans on needing it, or wants to need it.

No shit!

There have been numerous explanations in this thread alone on why people need assistance from time to time, but it’s never good enough for some people. It certainly blows the “welfare queen” scenario to bits, but sometimes people are not only smug, but blind, as well.

Not always. While the kids who came from my school had had sex education complete enough to make some parents yell (no, we didn’t get sex ed lab), those who joined our high school from others had the most amazing notions. I’ve met more than a teenager who thought that you couldn’t get pregnant if it was “only the end,” or who, conversely, thought you could get pregnant from being in the school’s hyperchlorinated swimming pool at the same time as a guy. This was in the 80s and I still hear teenagers spout the same idiocies.

Agreed. I saw the futility of arguing before my first post, but wanted the post in there for the borderline cases. The attitude of I want everybody worse off than me to stay worse off than me sucks in this country. They can’t be happy or at least content that something good happened to somebody to help them, when they themselves still need help. Their thoughts are all persons must be brought back down into misery.

Wow…just…wow.
Explain to me, please, in 300 words or less, what is the ONLY absolutely sure, positive, completely guaranteed way to NOT get pregnant?

The Grace of God is, by definition, undeserved. The saying is supposed to be an acknowledgment of the good fortune you’ve received that you did not, in fact, earn (like your health, or the fact that you were born into a rich and stable country, or the fact that your parents aren’t complete screw-ups). It’s meant to be an affirmation that you are not actually better than people in worse circumstances; that with a few changes in your own life that are out of your control, it could be you in line “getting your WIC.”

Explain to me, in 300 words or less, how you plan on dealing with the children that are born when you don’t equip people with the understanding of how to prevent pregnancy. And please, remember, the ignorance lasts beyond the teen ages. There are people in their 20’s and up who don’t understand how birth control works, because they were never taught.

It’s fine to say “It’s a bad idea for teenagers to be having sex,” but denying people education about their bodies and birth control is a proven loser.

Be a guy…
Seriously, not screwing around is the only way to be sure for a female not to get pregnant without having certain parts removed or tied off, BUT many teenagers decide to screw around anyway. If these teenagers had the proper knowledge that they could receive in a sexual education class, many unwanted pregnancies could be avoided. Trying to regulate morality is stupid and unproductive.

Let me be clear: I do not miss this point at all. In fact, I agree with it; teens who choose to be active should be properly educated. They should also understand that there are consequences to these choices, and should be prepared to deal with those consequences, whatever they may be. I simply couldn’t let the original comment slide, since it implied that “kids are gonna do it anyway” and that abstinence doesn’t work (it works every time it’s tried).

And since as a country and a society, America has decided to allow teenagers and young adults of both genders live here, we have to be prepared to deal with the consequences, whatever they may be.

Well, kids are “gonna do it anyway.” I mean, that’s just a fact. Maybe not every kid, but some (a lot), yeah. Denial of that reality doesn’t change it; it just makes for a misguided public policy.

And abstinence may work every time it’s tried, but abstinence education most certainly does not.