I’m neither surprised nor placated by his response. I’ve extended no olive branch to racists. I see no reason why I should do so to homophobes.
This too:
“Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.”
Oh, nice. So the bigots and the homophobes can say what they want, but the gays and the gay supporters, well, they’d better just rise above and be respectful and mannerly, and not hold even a teensy bit of resentment towards the people who wanted to deny them rights.
You could at least be kind enough to slap them around with one. When will the bigotry against homophobes and racists ever end?
Has Card said anything to the effect of “a revolution started if necessary”? In the remarks you quoted, it sounded to me like he was conceding (“Oh well, we lost; it’s gonna happen anyway, even though I’m against it.”)
The tone of this article fully encapsulates my feelings about Orson Scott Card. What a douche.
I’m with Inner Stickler in that I’m neither surprised or moved by his appeal.
Frankly I think he’s concerned for his pocketbook and nothing more. Really the only thing that has me torn about seeing it is that I’m a big Harrison Ford fan. And even with that I’m torn between wanting to see it for him and disappointed in him for working on it and supporting OSC in some way.
IMDB lists him as a producer, so he’ll make money from the flick.
And yes, he called for the violent overthrow of the US government here: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700245157/State-job-is-not-to-redefine-marriage.html?pg=all
Hateful incoherent wing nut. After the tsunami of crap he’s said about SSM his non-apology is a drop in the ocean.
Yep. From this:
That essay also includes this line that I consider a gem considering Card’s genealogy and devout adherence to his church (and the fact that Zina Huntingdon Jacobs Smith Jacobs Young’s oldest son was of dubious paternity until DNA testing of descendants proved it was not Joseph Smith’s- cite).
I don’t believe that all homophobes are closeted homosexuals, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to learn that Card is. He takes this shit way too seriously for somebody who is unaffected by it.
“Your marriages are recognized in 11 states and by the feds if you live in those states. What more do you people want?”
He also writes a whole hell of a lot of stuff in men’s showers/baths and not much in the women’s for somebody who’s supposedly not.
Also, it strikes me there’s a fair amount of physical bullying by larger, brutish muscular fellows on smaller, weaker, more intellectual targets in his books, sometimes tied to those bath scenes.
I’ve thought Card was a closet case once I read the later Seventh Son books. The first was just incredibly awsome, but as the series progressed, the GQ* of the noves goes past the GQ of that Tom of Finland guy’s drawings.
Alvin Maker is this perfect godlike man who runs around with a pack of manly men who worship him. And as the series progresses the unspoken homoeroticism gets…well…yuck. I kept wanting to say “Just go have sex, already, you whiny closet-cases! Geez.” It’s been years since I read 'em but there’s a character “Mike Fink” (based on the tall tales guy) who’s so obviously, pathetically in love with Alvin that it’s a little sickening (not because it’s ick-gay, but because this tough-as-nails riverboat captain who can wrestle tornadoes is talking about Alvin like…like Jan (Marsha?) Brady talked about Davy Jones in that one Brady Bunch ep…but with less dignity and restraint.)
Even the narrator has a hard-on for Alvin: Alvin is always right, he’s always THE CENTER of attention, his looks are described detail, etc.
Seriously–I read them before I read Card’s troglodytic opinions on GLBT issues and I was wondering what his orientation was.
*Gayness Quotient. I just invented this scale.
What units does it use?
Huh huh… you said unit.
I suggest milifabs.
Wait, Card wrote the Seventh Son books? Goddamnitsomuch. I’d never heard of them until last night when I saw a trailer for a movie staring Jeff Bridges. Was thinking I might want to see that and look for the books. Not now.
Even if homophobes, generally, deserved an olive branch (which they don’t), OSC certainly does not unless and until he comes up with an actual apology rather than a pathetic whine demanding that people stop being so mean as to remember that he was in the wrong or (gasp!) to suggest that he man up and admit to being in the wrong.
Terry Brooks once said that having your books adapted for a movie is like having your children kidnapped by a cult. He might have been quoting someone else, but there’s truth in it anyway.
As for OSC, well bless his li’l heart. That’s all I can say.
Oh thank you!
A surprisingly un-kneejerky articleabout this very topic was on Huffpo today, oddly enough.
I think regardless of whether people boycott the film or not, this has certainly let a much wider swathe of the population become aware that OSC holds some pretty nasty opinions. I have to hope that’s a good thing.
Also, that statement he made is horrid. It makes me thinkof this.