# I Pit You Pregnant Lady

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 18, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034 "2006-02-18T00:19:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/81 "2006-02-21T00:37:09Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> 😃
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> Never could abide a bully.
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> To _really_ cut this wench right at the knees, **furnishesq** could always go the Dorothy Parker route: at the next baby-gloat, “Give the poor child up for adoption to wolves. They’d be better role models.”

[The wolves aren’t doing it anymore.](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33550)

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**Author:** ![furnishesq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/977dab/32.png) [@furnishesq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furnishesq)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/82 "2006-02-25T23:22:27Z")

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So we go to class this week (week 7 of 10) and pregnant lady and her husband are not there. It was explained to us that her cat took very ill and is dying.

I felt a little guilty – like our bad mojo here of her flew out of the Internet and struck her cat.

I hope the cat lives. I love cats. . .

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/83 "2006-02-25T23:40:08Z")

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> [@furnishesq](#):
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> Good theory about her being a plant used by the teachers to gauge our reactions – but it is painfully obvious she is not.

How do you know she’s not a plant?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/84 "2006-02-25T23:42:28Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> How do you know she’s not a plant?

Well, she didn’t go to class, so maybe she is leaf-ing. 😃

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/85 "2006-02-25T23:44:48Z")

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You are a bad bad man, **Bosda**. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/86 "2006-02-26T02:13:53Z")

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> [@furnishesq](#):
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> So we go to class this week (week 7 of 10) and pregnant lady and her husband are not there. It was explained to us that her cat took very ill and is dying.
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> I felt a little guilty – like our bad mojo here of her flew out of the Internet and struck her cat.
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> I hope the cat lives. I love cats. . .

Assuming she’s not a plant (and I, too, am wondering how you know for sure) I hope, for the fetus’s sake that she told her husband “And you’ll have to clean the litter box because I’M PREGNANT! (victory fist)”

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/87 "2006-02-26T10:30:55Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I never had to go through this stuff when adopting a Labrador puppy (victory fist)!

You only get to do the victory fist if you’re PREGNANT with a Labrador puppy (victory fist).

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/88 "2006-02-26T15:24:53Z")

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I sure hope she stops with the (victory fist) once the kid’s born and she’s holding it. :eek:

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/89 "2006-02-26T15:57:49Z")

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I hope there is a cat, because that’s a lousy cover story for a miscarriage.

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**Author:** ![furnishesq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/977dab/32.png) [@furnishesq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furnishesq)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/90 "2006-02-26T17:11:45Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> I hope there is a cat, because that’s a lousy cover story for a miscarriage.

That is very clever thinking Irishgirl.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/91 "2006-02-26T19:18:53Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> I hope there is a cat, because that’s a lousy cover story for a miscarriage.

Hopefully she’d learn a lesson about karma if that were the case. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but damn, don’t tempt fate like that. Fate’s a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/92 "2006-02-26T19:55:26Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Assuming she’s not a plant (and I, too, am wondering how you know for sure) I hope, for the fetus’s sake that she told her husband “And you’ll have to clean the litter box because I’M PREGNANT! (victory fist)”

Good call. I never clean the litterbox. Can’t be too careful.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/93 "2006-02-26T19:58:30Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Hopefully she’d learn a lesson about karma if that were the case. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but damn, don’t tempt fate like that. Fate’s a bitch.

If it is a miscarriage, how could she ever show her face in your group again? If they never return my money’s on the miscarriage as the true reason for their absence.

A really, really cruel person, if she did have a miscarriage and rejoined the group, might greet her return with: “Welcome back to the adoption process (victory fist).”

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**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2006, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/94 "2006-02-27T07:03:14Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> A really, really cruel person, if she did have a miscarriage and rejoined the group, might greet her return with: “Welcome back to the adoption process (victory fist).”

That is \*incredibly \*mean and horrible and a terrible thing to say.

On the other hand, I have to admit I laughed. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/95 "2006-03-06T20:15:01Z")

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Update? You must have had week 8 by now. How’s the…cat?

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/96 "2006-03-06T22:01:09Z")

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Congrats on your adoption.

Our agency would put all adoptions on hold if you got pregnant. We did get pregnant while waiting for our son to come home from South Korea, but missed the signs (hey, we were infertile, missing periods was normal!), and ended up with Baby Surprise six months after homecoming. (She is now six, he is seven - its been a while).

Our social worker really wanted us to be the “completion couple” for our agency’s workshops (the people who come in with their baby and talk about the process). However, by the time that would have been scheduled, I would have definately looked pregnant, and said I didn’t feel that was sensative, so we never got to do it.

I suggest bringing a bottle of wine to go with the espresso brownies. A nice red complements chocolate well.

Also, you might want to point out the lack of stretch marks, the lack of impact L&D will have on your sex life, the lack of urinary incontenance resulting, the lack of needing to watch what you eat. Pregnancy is a bitch - I much preferred adoption.

I’d be complaining to the faciliatator and, if no results were gotten, her supervisor. I’d also suggest that the couple do additional work, a mixed family of bio and adopted kids has its own risk factors - and the whole reason we shouldn’t have done both simultaneously is that bonding can be impacted for both.

Best of luck.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/97 "2006-03-06T22:30:11Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Not chocolate enough. Bring fudge brownies. _Mocha_ fudge brownies. With chocolate-covered coffee beans sunk into them. And a little sign on them that reads “carob.”
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> I’d be amused at the irony that the woman least likely to be able handling raising a child is the one who got pregnant, if I didn’t feel sorry for a) the child that will be stuck being raised by this hideous bitch and b) everyone the resulting horrible child will encouner and make miserable throughout its life.

Don’t forget a couple of Dunkin’ Donuts Boxes of Joe. No decaf, though. And some Bailey’s, Sambuca, and/or Kahlua to spike it with (for those not driving, of course).

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/98 "2006-03-06T23:52:37Z")

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> [@Go You Big Red Fire Engine](#):
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> Which you would realise in completely irrelevant had you _actually read the thread_. Since, as I previously stated in this very thread, chocolate does not contain caffeine.  
> And yes, the dose for caffeine leading to an increased chance of fetal death is \>=[300mg](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16207803&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum), or[about 3 cups](http://coffeefaq.com/caffaq.html#HowMuchCaff) of coffee.  
> A more comprehensive study is [here.](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16207803&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum) This study concludes; ‘the adjusted hazard ratios for fetal death associated with coffee consumption of 1/2-3, 4-7, and \> or =8 cups of coffee per day were 1.03, 1.33, and 1.59, respectively.’

There actually are small amounts of caffeine in chocolate (“Chocolate: Food or Drug?”, Journal of the American Dietetic Association, [abstract here](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_aset=V-WA-A-W-AC-MsSAYVA-UUA-U-AAVVWYUEAU-AAVAYZADAU-DUCVDCUZC-AC-U&_rdoc=4&_fmt=summary&_udi=B758G-489Y87G-S&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F1999&_cdi=12926&_orig=search&_st=13&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000051676&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=1111158&md5=3f02fb87fb2190b58532c3aa9bcfd76b)), but obviously the popular belief that chocolate has any significant stimulant effect (beyond what you might experience from the sugar) is false. But if she ate like three pounds of cocoa, it might end up being enough caffeine to potentially have a tiny chance of hurting her baby. Theobromine has much less of a physiological effect than caffeine - if it has any at all - but if you absolutely gorged yourself on chocolate, I suppose there’s some tiny chance it could affect fetal development. Has anyone actually studied the influence of theobromine on pregnancy? Given the relatively small effect of caffeine, it’s probably not significant at all, but you can’t take it for granted.

**YWalker** : **Fire Engine** is, strictly speaking, wrong in her assertion that chocolate is caffeine free. But the amount of caffeine in chocolate is indeed miniscule; popular misconceptions that chocolate is a major source of caffeine may well have been responsible for those recommendations (along with our cultural tendency to vastly exaggerate minor or non-existent risks to fetuses. Consider, for instance, the number of people who think it’s necessary to avoid even the smallest amount of alcohol during pregnancy.)

I guess recommending the OP bring a nice vanilla-mifepristone torte to the next class would be evil. So I won’t do it. But it’d be sort of funny, in an utterly wicked way.

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**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/99 "2006-03-07T00:52:08Z")

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Psst, **Exy** , see post #55.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-you-pregnant-lady/345034/100 "2006-03-07T00:54:51Z")

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> [@Go You Big Red Fire Engine](#):
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> Psst, **Exy** , see post #55.

Fuck. I think I forgot to read the second page of the thread before replying. So, uh, I’m stupid . . .

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