# I pit your stupid bumper sticker!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 7, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499 "2012-07-07T04:46:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![MetroGnome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@MetroGnome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MetroGnome)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/1 "2012-07-07T04:46:39Z")

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So I’m stuck in stop-and-go traffic on an already hot day when I happen to read your stupid bumper sticker which proceeds to convert me from a heat sink to a heat source. You’re bumper sticker reads: “Consider this: Amateurs built the Ark, Professionals built the Titanic.”

Here are a few things wrong with your comparison between apples and orangutans:

1. The Titanic did not sink due to design or construction failures, it sank because it collided with a fucking iceberg.

2. The Titanic was built in two years by Harland and Wolff shipyard for the White Star Line. The Ark was built (by some accounts) in 75-80 years by a 500 year old man and his family and was designed and launched under a covenant of salvation by an omnipotent God to endure a disaster of His own making.

3. The Titanic exists as a wreck at the bottom of the ocean. The Ark exists as a figment of our imagination.

Your bumper sticker is the equivalent of declaring"A jolly fat saint built Santa’s sleigh, Boeing built Pan Am Flight 103," and expecting something profound to congeal from that asinine juxtaposition.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/2 "2012-07-07T05:08:12Z")

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Man built Disney World; God built—or at least greenlit the construction of—Hell.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/3 "2012-07-07T05:25:07Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Man built Disney World; God built—or at least greenlit the construction of—Hell.

Wait a second, is this a pro or con for god?

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/4 "2012-07-07T05:29:20Z")

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Depends on whether you’re trapped on It’s A Small World for 45 min when the ride breaks down or not.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/5 "2012-07-07T05:37:03Z")

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I’ve seen that quote before and it kinda went right past me, but you’re correct that it is kind of stupid.

But there are lots of even stupider bumper stickers out there. Like this one I saw: VOTE DEMOCRATIC, it’s easier than working!

That guy deserves to be rear-ended. (On the plus side, unless you’re right behind him it looks like he’s saying VOTE DEMOCRATIC.)

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/6 "2012-07-07T06:49:59Z")

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I have a Cthulhu fish on my car. Normally, I don’t drive agressive when I see someone with other sort of fish on their cars, I try to get in front of them so they can see mine. The only one who has ever reacted to it followed me to a coffee place and begged to know where I got it. He bought me coffee and we have been friends ever since.

Don’t do this at home.

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**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/7 "2012-07-07T06:53:35Z")

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We’ve also only got a sample size of one for divinely-drafted watercraft, whereas human ships have a proven track record of not sinking most of the time. Plus it’s not like He’s going to put all the arks that sank in the bible.

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**Author:** ![ScarletNumber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@ScarletNumber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScarletNumber)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/8 "2012-07-07T07:16:04Z")

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> [@MetroGnome](#):
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> 1. The Titanic did not sink due to design or construction failures, it sank because it collided with a fucking iceberg.

Iceberg, Goldberg. It’s all the same to me.

(Punchline to an old joke)

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/9 "2012-07-07T07:30:32Z")

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I’ve seen that bumper sticker before, and my immediate thought was: What would have happened, if the ark had hit that iceberg? All life on earth would have been wiped out, except what lives in water. Very bad planning.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/10 "2012-07-07T07:41:05Z")

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> [@GreasyJack](#):
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> Plus it’s not like He’s going to put all the arks that sank in the bible.

Losing the one with the pegasus really sucked.

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**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/11 "2012-07-07T07:50:44Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> I’ve seen that bumper sticker before, and my immediate thought was: What would have happened, if the ark had hit that iceberg? All life on earth would have been wiped out, except what lives in water. Very bad planning.

…and how come there’s no Hindenburg Lettuce. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/12 "2012-07-07T09:42:13Z")

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> [@Jamicat](#):
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> …and how come there’s no Hindenburg Lettuce. :dubious:

Lettuce pray.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/13 "2012-07-07T11:19:06Z")

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The one that annoys me is the anti-Obama sticker that reads something like “I’ll keep my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep the ‘change.’”

I always wish I could say, “OK, if you really mean that, give me all the money you’ve gotten from Obama’s tax cuts.” Of course, the driver probably wouldn’t believe Obama had cut his taxes, even if you provided proof, or rather what would constitute proof to a reasonably intelligent person.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/14 "2012-07-07T12:08:45Z")

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Recent favorite:

“My zombie ate your honor roll student”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/15 "2012-07-07T14:30:24Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Of course, the driver probably wouldn’t believe Obama had cut his taxes, even if you provided proof, or rather what would constitute proof to a reasonably intelligent person.

:::Hijack::: this is the most annoying thing about personally discussing politics with people. I can sort of understand being impervious to this in the social arena because I can see how other people just grow up a certain way and won’t change.

But people don’t even know how much taxes they’re paying! One time it even got a bit funny. At another job some people were surfing the tax rolls and complaining how much property taxes they were paying. I glanced over and saw they were paying a millage rate of, let’s say, 31.

**Me** : Every time I see one of those millage rates I mistake it for a percentage. That would be some high taxes there!  
**Them** : Those _are_ percentages.  
**Me** : No, I think they’re millage rates. Otherwise, if you owned a house worth $150,000, you’ be paying $45,000 a year in property taxes.  
**Them** : **Ludovic** , do you own a house?  
**Me** : No.  
**Them** : Then you don’t know what you’re talking about. Those are percentages.  
**Me** : :rolleyes::smack::smack::smack::smack:

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/16 "2012-07-07T15:14:07Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> :::Hijack::: this is the most annoying thing about personally discussing politics with people. I can sort of understand being impervious to this in the social arena because I can see how other people just grow up a certain way and won’t change.
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> But people don’t even know how much taxes they’re paying! One time it even got a bit funny. At another job some people were surfing the tax rolls and complaining how much property taxes they were paying. I glanced over and saw they were paying a millage rate of, let’s say, 31.
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> **Me** : Every time I see one of those millage rates I mistake it for a percentage. That would be some high taxes there!  
> **Them** : Those _are_ percentages.  
> **Me** : No, I think they’re millage rates. Otherwise, if you owned a house worth $150,000, you’ be paying $45,000 a year in property taxes.  
> **Them** : **Ludovic** , do you own a house?  
> **Me** : No.  
> **Them** : Then you don’t know what you’re talking about. Those are percentages.  
> **Me** : :rolleyes::smack::smack::smack::smack:

That’s hilarious. If what they believe were true, then NOBODY could afford to own a home except the very rich!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/17 "2012-07-07T15:57:09Z")

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I sort of enjoyed the bumper sticker on the ratty old pickup that said “I brake for…holy shit, I don’t have any brakes!!”

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/18 "2012-07-07T16:00:54Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The one that annoys me is the anti-Obama sticker that reads something like “I’ll keep my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep the ‘change.’”
> 
> I always wish I could say, “OK, if you really mean that, give me all the money you’ve gotten from Obama’s tax cuts.” Of course, the driver probably wouldn’t believe Obama had cut his taxes, even if you provided proof, or rather what would constitute proof to a reasonably intelligent person.

Just so I know what you mean, if I had to give you the money Obama has cut from my taxes, about how much would I owe you?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/19 "2012-07-07T16:15:36Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Just so I know what you mean, if I had to give you the money Obama has cut from my taxes, about how much would I owe you?

2% of what you made each year (gross) for the last few years due to the Social Security tax cut. [Obama changed it from 6.2% to 4.2%](http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=254723,00.html).

ETA, this is a tax that comes right out of your paycheck.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-your-stupid-bumper-sticker/627499/20 "2012-07-07T16:39:29Z")

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Plus an additional $400 from the 2009 tax credit, assuming **RTF** was employed then.

ETA: You can see exactly how overall taxation rates totted up for each year of the administration versus the Bush years (or any years) [here](http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=226).

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