# I pitt D'Anconia **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 19, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148 "2015-10-19T16:39:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/21 "2015-10-19T18:42:01Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > No, at least according to Rand there is nothing wrong with compassion and empathy, but they are not primary virtues. One’s first duty is to provide for oneself and one’s children and spouse if appropriate; if one has sufficient resources to then be charitable, by all means do so if you want. It won’t get you into heaven (which doesn’t exist, of course) but if it makes you feel good and if you are not stealing from other people to do it, charity is fine. > > There is a lot wanting in Rand’s philosophy, but it is not completely one-dimensional. One trouble with people like **D’Anconia** is that they haven’t gone past the sound bite stage, absorbing it by osmosis instead of actual study. [From here.](http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/charity.html) > [@](#): > > My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, \*\*if and when they are worthy of the help \*\*and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. **What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.** ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/22 "2015-10-19T18:45:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think the mods are getting tired of line dancers. How do they feel about pole dancers? I like D’Anconia, what he’s done with the Spartan football team these past few years… oh shoot, D’AnCONIA. Never mind. D’Anconia. I feel a bit sad for him. He’s bought into this puritanical belief that the poor are entirely responsible for their plight and could easily join the middle class if they just got off their asses and stop asking for free stuff. I don’t think he has any comprehension of what it’s truly like to be poor and/or black in the US, and this is caused by listening to Hate Radio, watching FOX, and reading the wrong books. I hope he has an Ebenezer Scrooge moment and becomes as earnest an advocate for the poor as he currently is against them. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/23 "2015-10-19T18:50:23Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I can’t tell - is this supposed to be a real person? > > Regards, > Shodan Yes, you’d have to dig back in the thread a bit for **TonyStClairs** original comment. I’m 90% certain, not 100. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/24 "2015-10-19T18:51:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > To a Randian, the Free Market (peace be upon him) provides the correct value of all things, including people. If someone is poor, then that person’s has been determined to be valueless by the Free Market (praise his name) and so not worth worrying about. 9/10, at least 😃 > [@BobLibDem](#): > > I feel a bit sad for him. He’s bought into this puritanical belief that the poor are entirely responsible for their plight and could easily join the middle class if they just got off their asses and stop asking for free stuff. I don’t think he has any comprehension of what it’s truly like to be poor and/or black in the US, and this is caused by listening to Hate Radio, watching FOX, and reading the wrong books. I hope he has an Ebenezer Scrooge moment and becomes as earnest an advocate for the poor as he currently is against them. also, 9/10 😃 (at least) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/25 "2015-10-19T19:33:10Z")
I can get along with most of the ‘conservative’ posters here; indeed, adaher is quite fun to read and argue with, and Scumpup, Smapti, and others, once off their 'hot button" issues, can be a pleasure to read. And even Shodan is only a wee bit of an asshole…🆒 No D’Anconia. He qualifies in my book as a full-fledged, wide-open in a Goatse-sort of way, complete and utter asshole. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/26 "2015-10-19T19:47:00Z")
I’ll bet\*\* D’Anconia\*\* never had a pet as a child. “Mom, can I have a hamster?” “Do you promise to clean its cage and make sure it has food and water?” “It can damn well do it itself!” “No” ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/27 "2015-10-19T20:34:07Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Scumpup, Smapti, and others, once off their 'hot button" issues, can be a pleasure to read. And even Shodan is only a wee bit of an asshole…🆒 Away from politics, Shodan makes very worthwhile posts, and is not remotely an asshole. And D’Anconia is barely worth Pitting. He’s pretty easy to dismiss in the debate fora, and will find his way out of here either by being banned or getting tired of losing arguments. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/28 "2015-10-20T00:40:43Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t care if he’s a troll or just an idiot. He’s a fucking asshole and I’m sorely tempted to place him on my ignore list. I’ve been here for ten years, he’s the only poster that has made my ignore list. I agree he’s either incredibly stupid or a troll. I’ve seen a post from him that actually contributes to a thread. So there is really no reason to figure out which, he’s just useless. He goes out of his way to derail threads that aren’t supportive of his philosophies by nitpicking inane details. I don’t feel I’m missing a thing not seeing his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/29 "2015-10-20T00:50:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [From here.](http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/charity.html) > [@](#): > > My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue. My point stands. There is no standard of worthiness express or implied in that quote. Also, people who give charity generally have some concern as to the worthiness of the recipient. You might give charity to someone who is willing to work but is down on his luck; you would be less likely to give charity to someone who had won the lottery and blown it all on hookers and blow and was now unable to afford to keep his pimp-mobile. But that standard of worthiness would be yours and no-one else’s. eta: this is my reading of Rand’s point of view, not necessarily my point of view. Just for clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/30 "2015-10-20T07:39:05Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Away from politics, Shodan makes very worthwhile posts, and is not remotely an asshole. > > And D’Anconia is barely worth Pitting. He’s pretty easy to dismiss in the debate fora, and will find his way out of here either by being banned or getting tired of losing arguments. D’Anconia never loses arguments. Never once, ever. He trainwrecks and derails them. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. – He totally pwned that Hillary DMV thread, and the mods went and modded just about everyone _else_ in that thread for saying things that may have hurt poor widdle D’Anconia’s feelings. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/31 "2015-10-20T11:07:39Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > D’Anconia never loses arguments. Never once, ever. He trainwrecks and derails them. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. – He totally pwned that Hillary DMV thread, and the mods went and modded just about everyone _else_ in that thread for saying things that may have hurt poor widdle D’Anconia’s feelings. Actually, **tomndebb** warned him for a few minutes, then removed the post. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/32 "2015-10-20T12:07:52Z")
Christsakes, it’s **pit** , not **pitt**. kayaker, whose BS is from Pitt. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/33 "2015-10-20T12:08:19Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > I don’t see why people are talking to him either. Because when it comes to trolls this board doesn’t just engage, it rolls out the red carpet and fondles their balls while serving them a martini. You could be the most obvious, ignorant, one-note troll on the web and there will still be somebody on here who will miss the fucking obvious and try to debate you. There was a thread in one of the pussy hugging forums recently, something to do with a guy pretending be asexual but having to fight off amorous advances from a girl in his dorm. It was one of thee most blatant, obvious, clear as day trolls I have ever seen and still the kitty cuddlers were all over it, to the point that they were tut-tutting anybody who dared to be anything but sympathetic to the guy who was pretending that he was only sexually attracted to mailboxes. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/34 "2015-10-20T12:58:12Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > I don’t see why people are talking to him either. I quit after the “why should they get to vote” comment. Was that before or after you started a Pit thread about him? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/35 "2015-10-20T14:12:57Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Because when it comes to trolls this board doesn’t just engage, it rolls out the red carpet and fondles their balls while serving them a martini. You could be the most obvious, ignorant, one-note troll on the web and there will still be somebody on here who will miss the fucking obvious and try to debate you. > > There was a thread in one of the pussy hugging forums recently, something to do with a guy pretending be asexual but having to fight off amorous advances from a girl in his dorm. It was one of thee most blatant, obvious, clear as day trolls I have ever seen and still the kitty cuddlers were all over it, to the point that they were tut-tutting anybody who dared to be anything but sympathetic to the guy who was pretending that he was only sexually attracted to mailboxes. I don’t know. I’ve seen some PRETTY SEXY mailboxes in my time… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/36 "2015-10-20T14:42:33Z")
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/37 "2015-10-20T15:05:21Z")
I can see right thorough your trick to get me to log on to Facebook!! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/38 "2015-10-20T15:06:52Z")
Can’t get it on AOL? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/39 "2015-10-20T15:49:15Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > D’Anconia never loses arguments. Never once, ever. He trainwrecks and derails them. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. I haven’t had much trouble getting him to shut up. Maybe it’s just my lack of deodorant that sends him running. 😃 > [@](#): > > – He totally pwned that Hillary DMV thread, and the mods went and modded just about everyone _else_ in that thread for saying things that may have hurt poor widdle D’Anconia’s feelings. Must’ve missed that one. Didn’t even know Hillary had had problems at the DMV. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148/40 "2015-10-21T04:07:11Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t care if he’s a troll or just an idiot. He’s a fucking asshole and I’m sorely tempted to place him on my ignore list. My experience of the Dope was vastly improved when I could no longer see his posts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pitt-danconia/735148.md?page=3)