# I played Doom III! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 20, 2002, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800 "2002-11-20T21:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/41 "2002-11-22T18:39:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*I like the old stuff, too. Just got a copy of the old Dungeons of Daggorath for the old TRS-80 (circa 1982) that’s been ported Windows. You talk about a precursor to Doom . . . \*\* One of the best games ever… I have had nightmarish dreams about the gargoyles more often than I should admit. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/42 "2002-11-22T18:50:46Z")
I gave up on Zdoom and run doomit. Mrs. Plant refuses to play unless the M16 patch is loaded. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/43 "2002-11-22T20:50:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*I gotta see a link, because every article I’ve read on the subject has Carmack on record saying that the Xbox will have D3’s “full graphical fidelity”… \*\* > **[Carmack on Doom 3 Video Cards - Slashdot](https://games.slashdot.org/story/02/05/30/2151254/carmack-on-doom-3-video-cards)** > > mr\_sheel writes "According to a Gamespy interview with John Carmack, Carmack says what he thinks about the video cards with Doom3: ATI Radeon 8500 is a better card, with a nicer fragment path, while NVidia still consistently runs faster due to... So I was wrong. Sue me :). Actually, the gist I get is that “normal” doom 3 will look the same, but a high-end PC will be able to scale the graphics up even more while (duh) the xbox wont. Good this this wasn’t in GQ, eh? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/44 "2002-11-22T21:26:16Z")
Funny thing about that game, Ford. Unlike other games, when I hit alt-tab to switch to something else for a moment (say, posting here, or checking email), the game will not pause. As I use the other application, I can still hear the sound effects from DoD. And you can’t really pause it (that I can tell, anyway!)… ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/45 "2002-11-22T23:22:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Actually, the gist I get is that “normal” doom 3 will look the same, but a high-end PC will be able to scale the graphics up even more while (duh) the xbox wont. Well, yeah, the PC can get much higher resolutions, while the Xbox is gonna stick with 640x480. Plus the PC can get mods and upgrades and patches and all that wonderful stuff that makes life worth living… ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/46 "2002-11-23T03:51:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*Well, yeah, the PC can get much higher resolutions, while the Xbox is gonna stick with 640x480. Plus the PC can get mods and upgrades and patches and all that wonderful stuff that makes life worth living… \*\* I coulda sworn I read a Carmack quote somewhere in Slashdot that they’re going to have to scale back effects as well though – shadows and the like. Since I can’t find it though I guess it becomes an unsubstantiated rumor :). ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/47 "2002-11-23T05:06:33Z")
Well… that’s the beauty of the Xbox, in that it was designed to handle stuff like shadows and dynamic lighting without much loss of performance… all that stuff has been shunted over to the graphics processor, which is why the Xbox does so well with a relatively slow (compared to PC’s) CPU. I think you probably heard the report that the screenshots and game caps shown at E3 were mid-range graphics capabilities of the Doom 3 engine, and that probably got crossed with something else… or something… ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/48 "2002-11-24T09:01:13Z")
I don’t get how you can play a FPS with a game console controller. It makes it like driving a tank. Hold down this button to turn right, this one for left, this one for look up etc. IMO its totally unplayable without the direct, 1 to 1 feeling a mouse gives you. You move the mouse slow or fast and you turn slow or fast. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800/49 "2002-11-25T13:16:33Z")
Actually, console fps’s are getting better. You can get a pretty decent amount of control with dual analog sticks, if you’ve got a light touch. IIRC, the Xbox’s built in graphics processor is equal to a Geforce 3 (in fact, I think it IS a Geforce 3), so it’ll have to scale back on the shadowing and dynamic lighting–Doom 3 is designed to max out a next gen video card. At the highest settings it’ll even chug on a Radeon 9700… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-played-doom-iii/137800.md?page=2)