# I predict that Donald Trump will not serve a second term as POTUS. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 11, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482 "2016-12-11T23:53:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/41 "2016-12-12T17:48:51Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So you’re saying he’ll pull a Palin? Or a Nixon. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/42 "2016-12-12T17:54:00Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > He’s already done plenty of things that are ‘bad’ by any definition, including manipulating the perfectly legal operations of a company through state-level tax incentives and the implied threat of the parent company losing contracts (which is arguably racketeering), changing the US stance on relations with China (“It’s pronounced ‘Gy-na’!”) and Taiwan through an ill-advised call without even contacting the State Department, and refusing to receive daily intelligence briefings to make him aware of the impact of world events on national security and US opererations abroad. And he is so pathetically thin-skinned he finds it necessary to respond to every criticism with multiple tweets like an adolescent girl, call the news media for a conference and then berate them for not covering him in a favorable light, and continuing to espouse the baseless conspiracy theory that millions of illegal voters cost him the popular vote, thus undermining credibility in the entire electoral process with zero evidence of any kind. > > Donald Trump will stay in office long enough to see Alec Baldwin prosecuted for tax evasion, defamation of character, or some other manufactured offense, and will then resign to hand over the reins to Mike Pence, who will use the collection of insult comics and would be _Schultzstaffel_ extras in a thankfully unmade _Indiana Jones_ sequel to impose his Evangelical, hyperconservative, petroleum-industry-friendly agenda on the nation. > > Stranger Well for one he isn’t president so as president he has done nothing let alone anything wrong. The Carrier deal which was really something that Pence was doing as governor is no different than what my local mayor does to keep or bring in businesses and what Governors do all the time. And I don’t give a shit if China doesn’t like their game exposed. Taiwan has always been our ally and we sell them billions of dollars of arms but a phone call is going to make China throw a tantrum? Tough. They seemed to have figured out how to deal with it. Yeah thin skinned, stupid tweets, stupid antagonism with the press…I hope he tones it down but I doubt it. He’s not going to resign. Other than for health reasons which can’t be predicted he will serve 4 years and run again. If I had to predict he will run the presidency like he runs his company. Trusting to his managers to run their areas while he makes deals. There will be dozens of stories like the Carrier deal that should be taken care of at a lower level but he will micromanage and tout as victories. His approval and chances for reelection will depend on how people are feeling it in their wallets and how many of those victories he can show. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/43 "2016-12-12T17:57:10Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > In a presidential republic, ultimate authority usually resides in the the military. Here is where they stand today: Because, clearly, it’s perfectly reasonable and not hysterical at all to believe that military cadets cheering for the president-elect when he’s attending their game means they’re willing ditch their oaths and support a military dictatorship. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/44 "2016-12-12T18:50:48Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Well for one he isn’t president so as president he has done nothing let alone anything wrong. … You are following the BS he’s causing with the One China policy, right? What’s so bad about this is that this is one example of doing NOTHING at all, that’s right, NOTHING would be the correct thing to do. But Trump is set on pissing China off and intent on starting a trade war. Trump is about as smart as a genital wart when it comes to foreign policy. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/45 "2016-12-12T20:59:16Z")
Aye, **Morgenstern** ; I think the Taiwan call was a bigger deal than some people are willing to acknowledge.[ > [@](#): > > “He expected for China to bargain again for the one-China position, perhaps by giving up something on trade or something of that nature,” Yang said. “This is actually the foundation of the U.S.-China relationship, rather than something to be bargained over.” ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS\_CHINA\_TRUMP\_ASOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-12-05-11-11](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_CHINA_TRUMP_ASOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-12-05-11-11))Mr. Trump seems to think that every deal is negotiable, except for his side, which can do whatever it wants. I base that on the numerous reports of his stiffing contractors after they have fulfilled their side of the bargain. The difference in international trade (and in military disputes) is that there are no teams of lawyers that are going to send angry letters to a hapless shopkeep telling him to shut up. I don’t think China will simply roll over like an Atlantic City drapery shop owner who is facing bankruptcy when Mr. Trump tries to abrogate treaties and/or trade deals, especially knowing that he expects them to take several steps backward. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/46 "2016-12-12T21:45:27Z")
The big question is will not worrying about a second term make him a better or worse President? ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/47 "2016-12-13T05:52:03Z")
How realistic is it that the Republican power brokers are ready to invoke the 25th amendment real soon after the swearing in so that we have 4 years of President Pence? It’s a win win from their perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/48 "2016-12-13T05:59:25Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > How realistic is it that the Republican power brokers are ready to invoke the 25th amendment real soon after the swearing in so that we have 4 years of President Pence? It’s a win win from their perspective. It’s about as realistic as Trump being grabbed by aliens and taken away for probing. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/49 "2016-12-13T06:04:25Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > How realistic is it that the Republican power brokers are ready to invoke the 25th amendment real soon after the swearing in so that we have 4 years of President Pence? It’s a win win from their perspective. Oh good lord no. In fact, one of my theories is that Trump chose Pence in part as insurance against assassination. (Note: I am NOT endorsing assassinating the president.) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/50 "2016-12-13T06:32:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Oh good lord no. In fact, one of my theories is that Trump chose Pence in part as insurance against assassination. (Note: I am NOT endorsing assassinating the president.) Well that was also the theory about why George H. W. Bush picked Dan Quayle as his Veep back in the '80s. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/51 "2016-12-13T06:43:25Z")
He’ll get two terms, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/52 "2016-12-13T15:31:17Z")
I’m with the folks guessing he’ll be one and done. As long as nobody tells him “I bet you can’t win a second term!” He does not seem to like the requirements of the job. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482/53 "2016-12-14T23:29:16Z")
Who says the USA will exist in any sense beyond the highly theoretical in January 2021? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-predict-that-donald-trump-will-not-serve-a-second-term-as-potus/774482.md?page=2)