# I protest! **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 24, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085 "2015-07-24T18:13:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/61 "2015-07-24T23:02:46Z")
and never mention the “duck incident” around Colibri.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/62 "2015-07-24T23:06:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I won’t mention his name (because that’s the point). It was a semi-famous person who had done something. A member of this board started a thread on the topic. The consensus of the thread was generally negative towards the semi-famous person and his actions. > > The Chicago Reader and the SDMB then received a letter from the semi-famous person’s lawyers saying that the thread was defaming their client and the board would be sued if the thread wasn’t removed. After checking how much spare change was in the coffee can where they store the legal defense fund, the board decided to remove the thread and tell people not to start any new threads on this person. Semi-famous is a very big stretch for some relatively unknown crybaby. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/63 "2015-07-24T23:13:16Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Bringing up a poster’s stupid posts from another thread, even when at most tangentially connected to the current thread, has never been moderated as an insult. I have to mention here that I would not be proud to have a rule that actually turned an insulting (as in insulting the intelligence of people older than 11) point that I had made in the past (theoretically speaking) and turning it around into claiming that it is now an insult against me. IMHO what SA did was very insulting and dumb, it was a sorry attempt at protecting the legacy of a coach that protected a paedophile. In any case, it seems that the rule is more related to harassment than any judgement on who is insulting who. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/64 "2015-07-24T23:21:50Z")
Agreed on all counts. That point is that if such a reference isn’t inherently insulting (as this board defines that term), then there’s no reason for a poster to know it is off-limits. Incidentally, I am among the very unpopular minority who think SA got more flak than he deserved for that thread. The only thing worse is making a rule that forever enshrines one stupid argument. I rest happy knowing that people have forgotten the worst arguments I’ve made on this board. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/65 "2015-07-24T23:27:11Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I have to mention here that I would not be proud to have a rule that actually turned an insulting (as in insulting the intelligence of people older than 11) point that I had made in the past (theoretically speaking) and turning it around into claiming that it is now an insult against me. > > IMHO what SA did was very insulting and dumb, it was a sorry attempt at protecting the legacy of a coach that protected a paedophile. There has been exactly zero evidence of any such thing. And you should know better than to be making such claims in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/66 "2015-07-24T23:45:18Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > … The only thing worse is making a rule that forever enshrines one stupid argument. I rest happy knowing that people have forgotten the worst arguments I’ve made on this board. You wait, I got your number and I’m biding my time. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/67 "2015-07-24T23:47:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There has been exactly zero evidence of any such thing. > > And you should know better than to be making such claims in this forum. :rolleyes: That was an opinion dude. In any case if hypothetically speaking (another thing you missed, an hypothetical) I had claimed that giants are moving the continents under the earth’s crust and defended that idea for ages even when confronted with what serious investigations did found I think it would be fair for me to get digs from time to time for being so stubborn with little or no evidence. Incidentally you are also claiming then that there is zero evidence that the ruling has more to do with preventing harassment rather than being insulting. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/68 "2015-07-24T23:55:24Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Who else has this protection? It would be good to know now… I suspect it is no longer relevant since Opal has passed away, but I think there was some kind of rule about not saying the word “buckeyes” after the epic pit thread of several years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/69 "2015-07-24T23:59:29Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > You wait, I got your number and I’m biding my time. Fortunately, I made most of them with my sock, **Rand Rover**. [Seriously though, whatever happened to that guy?] ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/70 "2015-07-25T00:01:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > **RNATB** also violated the rule against insults outside the Pit and IMO should have been warned or mod noted for that as well. What was the insult? ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/71 "2015-07-25T00:02:33Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Fortunately, I made most of them with my sock, **Rand Rover**. > > [Seriously though, whatever happened to that guy?] Couldn’t manage to keep posting here; Being pleasant to everybody gets tiring, you know. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/72 "2015-07-25T00:13:54Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Fortunately, I made most of them with my sock, **Rand Rover**. > > [Seriously though, whatever happened to that guy?] He lives like three blocks from me, which I sussed out from a thread he’d posted about a problem he was having near his home once (and he confirmed that w/ me privately.) I know the block but not which house, but they’re all giant and expensive so his claims of being well off and stuff all those years wasn’t an act, FWIW. Guess I should go knock on some doors. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/73 "2015-07-25T00:35:01Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Incidentally, I am among the very unpopular minority who think SA got more flak than he deserved for that thread. The only thing worse is making a rule that forever enshrines one stupid argument. I rest happy knowing that people have forgotten the worst arguments I’ve made on this board. True, the flak was unfairly harsh. Ah, if only that were true in my case…:o ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/74 "2015-07-25T00:42:14Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > He lives like three blocks from me, which I sussed out from a thread he’d posted about a problem he was having near his home once (and he confirmed that w/ me privately.) I know the block but not which house, but they’re all giant and expensive so his claims of being well off and stuff all those years wasn’t an act, FWIW. Guess I should go knock on some doors. No kidding! I vaguely recall him living in Chicago, so I automatically picture the _Home Alone_ house. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/75 "2015-07-25T01:44:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > **RNATB** also violated the rule against insults outside the Pit and IMO should have been warned or mod noted for that as well. Incorrect. There is a rule against direct insults outside of the Pit. That was an indirect insult. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/76 "2015-07-25T02:18:48Z")
What **RNATB** was actually doing with that post is something we’re not supposed to accuse people of outside the Pit so I characterized it as an insult instead. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/77 "2015-07-25T02:46:29Z")
Going on record here as someone who knows all about the thing with SA and the tube-which-shall-not-be-named, and had no idea that there was a rule about it. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/78 "2015-07-25T03:07:36Z")
Same here. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/79 "2015-07-25T03:44:37Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Even if it makes sense to tell posters to knock it off if they are derailing a thread with paper towel tube commentary, that doesn’t mean it should be a warnable offense (unless and until they don’t knock it off in the thread). About where I come down. Unless it is a warnable offense _independent_ of the specific commentary ( and I see some are arguing in this case it was ), it shouldn’t be a first strike warning. I actually _do_ believe someone could be aware of that mudfight and not have seen the subsequent debates in ATMB. The argument that a prolific poster _must_ have been aware of the rule is silly IMHO - it’s a big board and people miss stuff all the time. If it’s non-intuitive rule the correct response for a first offense is to tell them to knock it off, not a formal warning. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085/80 "2015-07-25T04:10:30Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > About where I come down. Unless it is a warnable offense _independent_ of the specific commentary ( and I see some are arguing in this case it was ), it shouldn’t be a first strike warning. I actually _do_ believe someone could be aware of that mudfight and not have seen the subsequent debates in ATMB. There’ve also been numerous mod notes and mod threats over that last few years in almost every forum on the board about it. Again, it really strains credulity that **RNAYB** didn’t know about it. The mods get fed up having to deal with it and perhaps they finally decided that since mod notes weren’t doing the trick they’d kick it up a notch to see if people would finally start to take them seriously about it. FWIW, I got a warning recently for violating a mod note I didn’t see. ‘Ignorance of the law is no excuse’ is pretty much the answer I got in my protest thread, so even if we stretch credulity and assume **RNATB** really didn’t know about it, he’s been around her long enough and active in enough forums that he should have known about it. As it put to me, there’s no point if issuing mod notes and warnings if a person can avoid them simply by claiming not to have known about them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-protest/726085.md?page=5)