# I read slash. I'm going to hell.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 13, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675 "2003-06-13T21:29:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loneraven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c0e974/32.png) [@Loneraven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loneraven)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/1 "2003-06-13T21:29:37Z")

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I’ve been browsing the murkier sections of [fanfiction.net](http://www.fanfiction.net) this evening. The site is generally a haven for every twelve-year-old AOL user wHo TyPeS LiKe ThIs, but tonight I actually found a cubic zirconia in the rough - a story I enjoyed reading.

It was a slash story. I’ll freely admit to loving slash fanfiction - it’s my hobby and my vice. “Slash” is, for those less geeky than me, fanfiction involving a homosexual relationship in it somewhere. There are many different types of it, and while most of it is very, very bad, some of it is really well-written and a joy to read.

So, tonight, after reading that nice story, I naturally wanted to leave a review. While I was doing so, I skimmed through the other reviews, and found the following little gem:

_“I find your “slash fiction writing” to be repulsive. Who, in their right mind, would write stories about heterosexual children’s characters, and turn them into soft-core porn?! It’s a bit disheartening to be lead to a site containing such filth. I find this to be extremely immoral and unecessary. Please, think about what you’re writing before you do, and where you post your link to your works.  
May God be with you, so you don’t have night after night of eternal hellfire.”_

Note - the characters in the story are sixteen, which is the legal age of consent in this country, and it makes very little difference anyway, as the story was rated PG.

I don’t feel I need to add any ranting to this - it just about stands alone, don’t you think?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/2 "2003-06-13T21:45:31Z")

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The grievous thing about slash is that some very, very talent authors write it almost exclusively. It’s…God, it’s wrong, I know, but I’ve read some of it too.

_hides face_ I was young! I needed the money!

[Kyle]  
But **Ninja** , you read it just yesterday!  
[/Kyle]

And the writing is…astonishingly good. Though I tend to skip over the gay sex parts. Must be my inner Puritan kicking in.

But honestly, if a person has a problem with slash, they ought to read the headline of a story on [fanfiction.net](http://fanfiction.net). It’s not like they don’t say: “Warning – Slash” on the headline and “Warning – Slash” in the Disclaimer. There’s no need to get all offended just because it’s what someone enjoys reading/writing. Just don’t READ it, that’s all.

Preparing my Handbasket for Hell now. I’m not packing it yet, because I’ve never _written_ any slash…

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/3 "2003-06-13T21:49:34Z")

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> \*\*I read slash. I’m going to hell. \*\*

\<snort\> I **WRITE** slash. What does that make me? The gatekeeper to hell?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/4 "2003-06-13T21:53:13Z")

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I seriously love slash. _Star Wars_ slash, mostly.  
There was a huge debate over at [theforce.net](http://theforce.net) to allow slash stories on the board, under the same guidelines as het stories-nothing more than PG13. It failed, unfortunately, but some of us are still hoping.

To the reviewer, I only have to say this-if you don’t like it-DON’T FUCKING READ IT!!!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/5 "2003-06-13T21:56:38Z")

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Bingo, Guin.

I get a weird thrill out of slash, honestly…it’s such a difficult thing to admit. Makes people edge away from me.

It can be a little unlikely, though, betimes. Recent Pratchett fanfic I read was Vetinari/Vimes.  
o\_O

Let’s see…the sexless wonder and the man who hates him with a passion. I guess hate’s just love with its back turned, but even _so_…

Still, it was well-written and true to the characters. 😃

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/6 "2003-06-13T21:59:37Z")

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Well, we’re gonna be keeping each other company in a warm, warm place.

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**Author:** ![Profane\_Creation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/839c29/32.png) [@Profane\_Creation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane_Creation)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/7 "2003-06-13T22:00:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*\<snip\>
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> To the reviewer, I only have to say this-if you don’t like it-DON’T FUCKING READ IT!!! \*\*

Well, at least they read it before saying they didn’t like it (I’m guessing). That’s a hell of a lot better than not reading it before slamming it.

Are they not allowed to give a critical review? I mean, yeah, this was perhaps a bit more preachy on the whole concept rather than a true critique, but still.

And a nice suggestion to be careful where the links may appear. Not bad. Overall, a bit sanctimonious, but far from the worst I’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/8 "2003-06-13T22:01:36Z")

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me too.

Regarding the snippy little review quoted in the OP… what in the world is s/he even DOING in a place where you can find slash??!

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**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/9 "2003-06-13T22:06:26Z")

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Some people get so indignant about the existance of slash fics, or lemon fics, or whatever. You’d think someone had tied them to a chair and was forcing them to read it. It’s not like the stuff is all that hard to avoid.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/10 "2003-06-13T22:12:31Z")

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BTW, can we have a link to this story? It wouldn’t be inappropriate, seeing as how [fanfiction.net](http://fanfiction.net) no longer accepts stories that go beyond PG13-if only because some jerks complained because they didn’t think they needed to read the warnings. So [adultfanfiction.net](http://adultfanfiction.net) opened up.

_sigh_

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/11 "2003-06-13T23:16:18Z")

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I want to be sure, so I just stick to New Testament slash.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/12 "2003-06-13T23:27:51Z")

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As a _Transformers_ fan, I find any sort of fanfic sexual derring-do to be wildly ludicrous, slash or otherwise. Robots don’t **boink**

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/13 "2003-06-13T23:41:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \*  
> \*\*I want to be sure, so I just stick to New Testament slash. \*\*

Hey, you’re missing some good O.T. slash. Like, for example, [I Samuel 20](http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=I+Samuel+20&section=0&version=nrs&new=1&showtools=1&oq=&NavBook=joh&NavGo=9&NavCurrentChapter=9).

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**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/14 "2003-06-13T23:46:26Z")

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I read slash. I read bad, dirty NC-17 slash. On purpose. I go to Google and search for terms like “bad, dirty NC-17 slash.”

I think the critique was inappropriate. Not because everyone has to like slash, but it’s silly to read a slash story and then criticize it merely for being slash. If you don’t like slash, then don’t read this. You aren’t obligated to read Every Single Thing On the Internet.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/15 "2003-06-14T00:10:52Z")

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I like Slash quite a bit. Unfortunately the best slash writers in Buffy Fandom write Spike/Xander _shudder_. I’m all for gay sex, but I want to read _hot_ gay sex, like Spike on Angel(us), or Wes…not Xander.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/16 "2003-06-14T00:18:17Z")

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Oh yes, big sexy NC-17 slash=YUM

I belong to a SW fan group that does a lot of stories-including very hot and heavy PWP (Porn without Purpose, for those of you not in the fan fiction community).

When I first joined, I was like, SLASH? No way!

But then I read it, and I found-I loves me some man on man pilot stories. Wedge/Luke, Face/Ton, etc.

I also found an _ER_ slash with the ultimate: Luka/Carter. _drool_

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**Author:** ![king\_of\_spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7cd45c/32.png) [@king\_of\_spain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/king_of_spain)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/17 "2003-06-14T00:35:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \*  
> \*\*I like Slash quite a bit. Unfortunately the best slash writers in Buffy Fandom write Spike/Xander _shudder_. I’m all for gay sex, but I want to read _hot_ gay sex, like Spike on Angel(us), or Wes…not Xander. \*\*

I like Xander just fine myself, but Gunn/Wes = The Sex. Mmm.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/18 "2003-06-14T00:55:06Z")

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**pepper** , check at adultfanfiction-I looked and saw some stories that have Angel/Spike.

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**Author:** ![teleute12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@teleute12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teleute12)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/19 "2003-06-14T01:04:23Z")

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No, the best Angel-slash is Wes/Faith/Lilah. Slash, het, AND threesomes! What could be better?

_sigh_ I miss the good ol’ days when [FF.net](http://FF.net) was full of badly written smut, when it was a toss-up between which was worse, the writing or the pairing. Now it’s all white-washed.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-read-slash-im-going-to-hell/181675/20 "2003-06-14T01:11:01Z")

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The quoted comment in the OP reminds me of that website that went to the trouble of attemtping to count the number of acts of violence/incidents of “sexuality”/swear words in movies such as Blade, Terminator 2, etc. Makes one wonder just why you’re doing what you’re doing if you count 341 swears used and say something like “We had to watch this movie eleven times to count all this stuff up.”

Hint, person: if you don’t like it, then unless the Devil hisself is holding a gun to your head (insert double entendre about devil and gun here) you can always alt+left to go back.

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