# I really hate the Amish **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2000, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510 "2000-07-23T02:32:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2000, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/61 "2000-07-25T01:34:26Z")
> [@](#): > > “Pon Farr.” That’s when Spock hit puberty and had to breed, right? Yeah, he was feelin’ the hormones _real bad_, and kindof went nutso. Check’s in the mail **andros** 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2000, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/62 "2000-07-25T19:12:28Z")
My husband was routinely accosted by the Amish when we lived in Delaware. He wore a beard and no mustache and apparently looked like one of their own had got loose and decided to wear modern clothes. Sometimes they refused to believe that he was not Amish. He does look a it simple, but still i never quite understood it. ---
**Author:** ![ATTGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@ATTGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ATTGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2000, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/63 "2000-07-25T21:30:11Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Sweet\_Lotus \* \*\* > [@](#): > > Because natural gas is just that - _natural_. \*\* So what’s unnatural about electricity? Or copper wire? Is it just the plastic sleeve around the wire that keeps these people from having a toaster or a lamp? ---
**Author:** ![Grendel69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7bcc69/32.png) [@Grendel69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grendel69)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2000, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/64 "2000-07-26T04:16:51Z")
When the Amish elders let their kids run wild, they REALLY run wild. A few years back a bunch were arrested outside an hour and a half outside of Philly. They were dealing coke with a motorcycle gang (the Warlocks I believe) and were evidently moving several pounds amonth. They also discovered that these kids had cars that they had hidden in the fields. At night they would get coked up and tear ass around in these cars. How about them wild oats!!! ---
**Author:** ![RockJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@RockJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RockJock)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/65 "2021-12-17T19:52:28Z")
I grew up loving the Amish. I wanted to date an Amish girl - I lived in the burbs but loved the country and all things early American. The cute outfits, old time methods etc… all are alluring. They are also bullshit. I know the Amish well now - hence I hate the damn culture. Check any credible source, the Amish love to engage in incest.They are so damn cruel to animals its sickening. We had one charming Amish guy beat his horse to death on the roadway as it was suffering from heat stroke (it was 90F+) and he was making the animal pull a massive load up a hill on the road. What they do to dogs, is second only to the damn Chinese. I have rescued abused dogs and stopped these American Taliban from beating horses. I hold them in such contempt. I hate these people. You know who loves the Amish? The fundamentalist, Trump-worshiping, white nationalists who praise jesus but are in to being first rate assholes and are racist frauds. The Amish are a fanatical, sepratist cult. They are not foreigners… they are Americans who are intollerant, elitist and have a twisted view of Christianity. If they didnt dress so damn cute, everyone would hate them. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/66 "2021-12-17T20:03:45Z")
Is a 21 year old zombie the record? Wow! I have no real problem with zombie threads, so I’m not complaining about that aspect. But holy smokes! ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/67 "2021-12-17T20:07:30Z")
From what I understand, they do not eschew “technology”, but they carefully assess as a community which pieces of it are compatible with their religious values, which place great importance on co-operation as opposed to competition, and living a humble and upright life. A whole lot of technology we use is about doing things faster and more shallowly, with ever greater perceived autonomy, and with no regard for collateral damage. These are things the Amish think about. They are not anti-technology per se, I believe. As far as their abuse of animals, that’s very well documented. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/68 "2021-12-17T20:09:43Z")
All I know is that they make really nice blue cheese. [![](https://dsom-imager-prod.shipt.com/ace0a33f-7846-2961-8056-18a48761989c/0-a7069c73907d9b5088f6b035dcdfba30.png) ](https://dsom-imager-prod.shipt.com/ace0a33f-7846-2961-8056-18a48761989c/0-a7069c73907d9b5088f6b035dcdfba30.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ranch\_Dip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranch_dip/32/5238_2.png) [@Ranch\_Dip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranch_Dip)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/69 "2021-12-17T20:09:56Z")
> [@RockJock](#): > > They are so damn cruel to animals its sickening. This is why I don’t like them. I don’t know about your other examples. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/70 "2021-12-17T22:35:28Z")
Me - OH I [hate the Dutch.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUs5X9glCc) EDIT: whoa, wait - what’s this? > [@Scylla](#): > > Actually I was here first Voguevixen. Both personally and from an ethnic/religious standpoint. Maybe they should move. > [@Scylla](#): > > When I first moved to PA I was excited about living near Amish. _(Angry headmaster’s voice)_: **Scylla** - will you please return immediately to explain this contradiction? NOW!? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/71 "2021-12-17T22:41:59Z")
I was with you up to this point: > [@RockJock](#): > > What they do to dogs, is second only to the damn Chinese. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/72 "2021-12-17T22:47:46Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > > [@Scylla](#): > > > > When I first moved to PA I was excited about living near Amish. > > _(Angry headmaster’s voice)_ : **Scylla** - will you please return immediately to explain this contradiction? > NOW!? I don’t think he’s coming back, but my assumption is that he moved to Amish country and was excited. Then he was disappointed by his interactions with the general community, and then a set of assholes who were Amish bought the place next to his. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/73 "2021-12-17T22:53:13Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Me - OH I [hate the Dutch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUs5X9glCc) I was expecting the GTAV Pisswasser Fightin’ Lager song. (Fuck the Dutch!): [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/n6TzK07fokU/maxresdefault.jpg "Gta 5 radio commercial pisswasser") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6TzK07fokU) (I have no actual problem with the Dutch. Or any group of people according to nationality.) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/74 "2021-12-17T23:00:11Z")
The only people who hate the Amish more are each half of the Amish who disagree with the other half of the Amish. (cite: Emo Philips) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/75 "2021-12-17T23:01:39Z")
Yonks ago when I was in college, I took a course on sustainable agriculture, and we read a book about the Amish for a seminar discussion. One student brought a friend in to audit the seminar and talk about his experience with the Amish. Well, he wasn’t _actually_ experienced with the Amish. He just had an Amish-style beard and dressed like them because he thought they were cool, and also thought that if he could join them, he could make them be more enlightened about women and shit. Later he figured out that that plan wasn’t gonna work, so he was looking to becoming a pool shark. I so wanted the Coen brothers to make a movie about him. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/76 "2021-12-17T23:05:59Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Later he figured out that that plan wasn’t gonna work, so he was looking to becoming a pool shark. Shoulda just stuck to _making_ the tables. [damn, solid beasts!](https://www.google.com/search?q=amish-made+pool+tables&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjPyqjj-Ov0AhVuGTQIHRBZBZ8Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=amish-made+pool+tables&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoHCCMQ7wMQJzoGCAAQBxAeOgQIABAeUMsNWJYvYJcwaABwAHgAgAFiiAHEBpIBAjEzmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=Rhe9Yc-PKe6y0PEPkLKV-Ak&bih=568&biw=706&rlz=1C1CHBD_enCA835CA835) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/77 "2021-12-17T23:22:29Z")
Or… Heaters…? [Dutchcrafters](https://www.dutchcrafters.com/Amish-Fireplaces/cat/255). ( Just don’t try to use them to light up your [Dutch Masters](https://dutchmasters.com/)… ) ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/78 "2021-12-17T23:32:24Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > my assumption is that he moved to Amish country and was excited. No, the contradiction he is being asked to explain is his comment that he was there before the Amish, but in a different post he says he was excited to be moving near them. Hard to come up with a simple explanation that makes both statements true. Not that we’ll ever get an explanation - I think the OP has been gone for a long time. Hatred-spewing of the sort in this thread (I know, a lot of it more than 20 years ago) always makes me uneasy because I’ve seen a lot of similar language directed at Islam, as if everyone who practices the faith were scum. Having lived more than 23 years of my life side by side with Muslims, I know that they’re the same as everyone else: some jerks out there who are inconsiderate, corrupt assholes and others who are kind and thoughtful. I would tend to assume the same of people in Amish communities. (I’m ethnically half Mennonite, not that it matters - I wasn’t raised in the community.) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/79 "2021-12-18T00:32:29Z")
I used to live in an area with nearby Amish and Mennonite communities, and contrary to the stereotypes, they aren’t as different from “us” as most people might think. Most of the puppy and kitten mills busted in that region are indeed run by the Amish, and the stories from the community about family violence and sexual abuse are absolutely true. That doesn’t mean that everyone acts that way, only that it exists. Not long ago, there was a story from Wisconsin where a 14-year-old Amish girl had a baby, and was unable to name the father because the men and boys in her community had pretty much passed her around since she was a preteen. Another poster on the message board where I read about it said, “I am absolutely sick! I didn’t think the Amish were even capable of knowing that people do things like this to each other” and the rest of us said things like “Think about how our ancestors lived 100-plus years ago; this kind of thing certainly happened back then, too.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510/80 "2021-12-18T02:11:59Z")
> [@RockJock](#): > > I grew up loving the Amish. I wanted to date an Amish girl - I lived in the burbs but loved the country and all things early American. The cute outfits, old time methods etc… all are alluring. Every word of your post is secondary in importance to the crucial question of: how in the world did you come upon this thread? Tell us, a story, **RockJock**! ETA: Also, welcome to the SDMB! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-really-hate-the-amish/26510.md?page=5)