# I saw LOTR Extended Version last night

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2002, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320 "2002-11-11T21:28:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/41 "2002-11-13T21:10:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by slortar \*  
> **…Rosie Cotton is HOT. Great, now I’m even more of a freak…add “hobbit porn” to my list of fetishes…**

A pervy hobbit fancier? Welcome to the club. Rosie was indeed fetching in her brief scenes in the original version. By the by, I bought MY first DVD player for the original DVD release. Best Buy, here I come for the bigger, longer, uncut version…Timmy

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**Author:** ![Engywook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bc8723/32.png) [@Engywook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engywook)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/42 "2002-11-13T22:06:34Z")

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Amazon dropped my copy on my desk at work today. Too important to trust to having it delivered at home. It is already… precious to me.

One thing interesting thing I did notice… Anybody take a careful look at the map of Middle Earth? It is not the same as the version that comes with the books. Slight differences… Minas Tirith is further from Ephel Duath and up against a different mountain range. No Old Forest. A few other things nudged around a bit.

Or am I just getting senile?

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**Author:** ![Anubis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Anubis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anubis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/43 "2002-11-13T22:06:34Z")

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Is Tom in there?  
Mewantee, mewantee, MEWANTEE! But me can’t havee yet, mum forbids us to buy anything for ourselves between November 1st and Christmas, and she probably won’t buy it for the heck of it, she hates DVD’s for some reason. (her old geezerness showing)

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/44 "2002-11-13T22:37:42Z")

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Unless I am really far off base, Bombadil was written out from the get-go and never even cast.

Sorry to crush hopes, dreams, etc.

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**Author:** ![Anubis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Anubis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anubis)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/45 "2002-11-13T22:50:58Z")

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No hopes, dreams, etc, just wondering.

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**Author:** ![Typo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Typo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/46 "2002-11-13T23:06:18Z")

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I wonder just how nice I’d have to be to my husband to talk him into purchasing the player and the DVD AND allowing the TV to be preempted for a while. (He thought the movie - his first exposure to Tolkien - was “pretty good,” and we do have the VHS.)

$58 players, you say? And there’s an edition available with bookends/statues? Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?

“All I want for Christmas are the DVDs, the DVDs, oh the DVDs!”

Darn you guys for awakening my Tolkien madness!

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/47 "2002-11-13T23:28:02Z")

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I finished rereading TTT today… and you know what? I think those who haven’t read the books or who aren’t really into the story as a whole are going to be disappointed if the TTT movie follows the book’s ending.

These movies have to appeal not only to those who have read the books but also to those who haven’t and won’t. The first movie did a great job of telling the story without making it seem too complex for nonfans to grasp. But the ending of the TTT book would surely put nonfans off if it’s followed in the movie …

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**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/48 "2002-11-13T23:34:00Z")

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**dantheman** Peter Jackson is already on record as saying that TTT will not end where it does in the book. For one thing, it wouldn’t give Frodo and Sam enough to do in ROTK. He’s saving some of the big stuff at the end of TTT for the last movie.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/49 "2002-11-13T23:45:50Z")

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Well yeeha! Heck, in TTT they don’t show up till the book’s half over. Yeeha.

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/50 "2002-11-13T23:55:00Z")

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I get the impression the the movie version of TTT mixes the plotlines more, while the book clearly seperated Frodo and Sam’s part of the journey from the others’. But that’s just an impression.

I’m a little disappointed that Shelob supposedly will not be in the second film. I was looking forward to that almost as much as I was looking forward to the Balrog in the first one… have to wait until ROTK for it, I guess.

I wonder if Jackson will do a “Bored of the Rings” gag reel when he’s done with the serious movies. I’d love to see his take in the Ballhog… “_dribbling his dark sphere_…” 😃

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/51 "2002-11-14T00:46:31Z")

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I believe I’ve heard somewhere (how’s that for a cite?) that TTT will intercut Frodo - Merry & Pippin - 3 hunters back & forth, and not follow Tolkien’s Chunk: book 3 Chunk: book 4 structure.

And definitely Shelob’s moved to ROTK. But in this one we get Treebeard, the Black Gate opening, and Oliphaunts. ROTK we get Shelob and (pant, pant) flying Nazgul.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/52 "2002-11-14T00:55:51Z")

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Mr. Pug just called. He couldn’t wait for Amazon and bought it today, so it’s waiting for me at home. I hope he hasn’t watched it already; I was hoping to see it with him tonight!

Someone on my Xmas gift list will get the Amazon one, I guess.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/53 "2002-11-14T03:31:54Z")

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Can I be on your Christmas gift list? And now if someone as a spare DVD player to give to a poor starving student… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/54 "2002-11-14T07:26:44Z")

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And on top of everything else, they’re pretty nifty bookends!

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**Author:** ![zephonith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@zephonith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zephonith)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/55 "2002-11-14T08:18:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Drastic \*  
> \*\*And on top of everything else, they’re pretty nifty bookends! \*\*

My friend broke the hand off one of them today. We superglued it back on though, so I don’t think my mother will ever find out 😃

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/56 "2002-11-14T10:48:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jsc1953 \*  
> \*\*And definitely Shelob’s moved to ROTK. But in this one we get Treebeard, the Black Gate opening, and Oliphaunts. \*\*

Some neat little details:

The Black Gate will be opened by Cave Trolls pushing them

Oliphaunts will NOT be mere elephants. Think of mastadons. I saw a picture on a TTT card and people barely come up to their knees. Picture:  
[http://img-www.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/5031.jpg](http://img-www.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/5031.jpg)

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/57 "2002-11-14T10:49:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Drastic \*  
> \*\*And on top of everything else, they’re pretty nifty bookends! \*\*

I’m waiting for the bookends that will come with the next movie. Hopefully Orthanc and Barad-Dur!!

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/58 "2002-11-14T13:22:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zephonith \*  
> \*\*My friend broke the hand off one of them today. We superglued it back on though, so I don’t think my mother will ever find out 😃 \*\*

Mom always said, “Don’t play ball in the house …”

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**Author:** ![Jerevan\_Somerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@Jerevan\_Somerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerevan_Somerville)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/59 "2002-11-14T15:03:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Chronos \*  
> And I’m almost certain that Lobelia was in the theatrical release… Remember a shrill femal voice outside of Bag End, and Bilbo telling Gandalf “I’m not at home”? Who do you think he was trying to avoid, there?

Ah, I do remember that. That’s one problem going from book to film: the director can’t always tell you everything the narrator does.

But they did leave out the hobbit custom of giving presents to friends on one’s own birthday. IIRC, somehow this is how Lobelia ended up with (or stole) the spoon collection…

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-saw-lotr-extended-version-last-night/136320/60 "2002-11-14T16:06:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by HubZilla \*  
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> I’m waiting for the bookends that will come with the next movie. Hopefully Orthanc and Barad-Dur!! \*\*

What a GREAT idea! From your lips to New Line Marketing’s ears!

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