# I see no one worth voting for...

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 16, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-see-no-one-worth-voting-for/752424 "2016-04-16T23:26:58Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-see-no-one-worth-voting-for/752424/57 "2016-04-18T18:44:54Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> One more comment on this because I remembered on my commute to work:
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> The thing is, you’ve made this claim before, and have been corrected before. It’s an absurd claim, so repeating it after being corrected is strange. From here in 2014:
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> (my bold in both of the above)
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> To which I responded in 2014:
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> You continued to participate in the thread after that response. It’s very strange to claim general ignorance, use an out of date cite, or proffer an “obscure law” that Clinton has been campaigning on when you’ve participated in threads on this same topic.

FTR I responded as follows:

> [@Gun nuts threaten gun store owner for selling gun they don't like](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gun-nuts-threaten-gun-store-owner-for-selling-gun-they-dont-like/687584/427):
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> Actually I was operating off of information which was perhaps 25 years out of date. I poked around the internet and discovered that a wave of lawsuits put some shitty gun manufacturers out of business during the 1990s. To my knowledge, it wasn’t the BATFE that did this though. Am I wrong?

I received no response to that back in 2014. Those linking to that thread can see that it got pretty intricate.

I maintain my claim that most people have never heard of PLCAA and that the acronym is not common knowledge. It’s also my understanding that there is no federal regulator that affirms that firearms work safely: they can routinely explode in your hand without government action. There _were_ apparently lawsuits successfully launched against shitty gun manufacturers. I don’t know whether they referenced state or federal law. This matters with regards to the accuracy of Clinton’s claims.

More generally. Bone. I know this is going to be hard for you to wrap your head around. But while guns are a first order issue to you, they are an 8th order issue to most people. I can figure out acronyms like BATF but I’m simply going to draw a blank on PLCAA even if you mentioned it once in a pit thread 2 years ago. Similarly for BATFE or FFL. No worries, but there’s a certain level of perspective I’d like to recommend.

> [@MacTec](#):
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> Just a quick clarification, I don’t fear that Clinton will “take away my guns” any more than Obama or bush, or Bill Clinton or any other politico.

Good. You are welcome to vote for who you want of course. I’m implying that Hillary Clinton doesn’t deserve to be labelled a bitch though. I have yet to see evidence that gun manufacturers have federal liability for example. They might. But no evidence for that contention was proffered in this thread or the 2012 thread and I can’t remember what my internet search uncovered 2 years ago.

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