# I sentence you to insanity! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711 "2006-06-22T13:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/61 "2006-06-23T11:20:46Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Clam] I feel you aren’t making any friends here, **Ludovic**. Better hope **Qdgop** never has an excuse to rectal probe you. [/QUOTE] Ludo’s the big bitch now. Lemme massage your dirty little prostate before I go out and fuck my daughter senseless. Jackass. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Clam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Happy\_Clam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Clam)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/62 "2006-06-23T11:20:51Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] Are you aware that our own Dr. **Qadgop** is one of those prison workers whose mental health and safety you are assigning such low importance to? That you are stupid, and a cunt, and a stupid cunt appears to have been established. Right now I’m interested in whether we should be adding “clueless” or “evil” to the list. [/QUOTE] Hell, why not both? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Clam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Happy\_Clam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Clam)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/63 "2006-06-23T11:22:56Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Ludo’s the big bitch now. Lemme massage your dirty little prostate before I go out and fuck my daughter senseless. Jackass. [/QUOTE] Wha…wha…_what the fuck_? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/64 "2006-06-23T11:28:20Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Clam] Wha…wha…_what the fuck_? [/QUOTE] It’s okay for everyone else. But not for me. (For instance, Iraq.) Go out and have fun. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/65 "2006-06-23T11:30:09Z")
Ludovic…that was uncalled for. Or didn’t you know that **QtM’s** daughter is a Doper? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Clam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Happy\_Clam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Clam)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/66 "2006-06-23T11:42:12Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] It’s okay for everyone else. But not for me. (For instance, Iraq.) Go out and have fun. [/QUOTE] Your words mean nothing to me. I mean, I understand each individual one, but put in that kind of order, they have no meaning I can elucidate. I cannot parse that sentence. You are prohibited from participating in incest while others are not? You are prohibited from engaging in any kinds of sex acts while others are not? What the hell does this have to do with Iraq? Where am I supposed to have fun? In Iraq? I don’t have a daughter. I’m not sure I want to know the answer, but… what the fuck are you typing about? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/67 "2006-06-23T14:39:18Z")
I feel like I’m in Surreal Doper Land (which is not quite the same as **Surreal** ’s Doper Land). What the hell is this thread about? Where is it going? Is \*\*Ludovic \*\*just batshit insane? If anyone wants to start a real thread about forced medication of prisoners, medicating suspects before trial or the safety and well-being of prison employees, I’d be happy to join in again. But this is just bizarro-world. And \*\*Ludovic \*\*- I don’t know if you’re insane, or evil, or trolling. But you are certainly incoherent right now. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/68 "2006-06-23T16:17:44Z")
I don’t understand this thread, but I have a question. Is there a statute of limitations on kidnapping charges? If this woman refused meds and if she weren’t forced to take meds, could the day come when she is past that time and she suddenly gets better and nothing could be done? I’m not suggesting it would happen, but could something like that happen? ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/69 "2006-06-23T16:50:57Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Some may say insanity is a fate worse than death. So be it. Don’t give her (or him, if it should come up,) any mind-affecting medication. [/quote] Actually, you are wrong. Insanity can be quite comforting. That’s why some people choose to go insane, because they cannot tolerate the real world. > [@](#): > > I revel in the thought that both perpetrators might spend decades chased by unshakable pain, unable to form coherent thoughts and bearing an almost unbearable burden of demons from within. In that case, give 'em anti-psychotic meds. Force them to focus, return to reality, and REALIZE where they are and what they did. That’s a much, much bigger torment than babbling nonsense at the walls all day. Think of this…antipsychotic meds can have debilitating side effects. [Akathisia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia), for example, is excrutiating torment – made worse by the fact that shrinks don’t see it as any big deal. I can’t even imagine what that’s like if you’re locked in a 6x9 cell! Also…why the insane hatred? Elizabeth Smart wasn’t murdered, she wasn’t even raped (I think…correct me if I’m wrong about that.) Children have a natural tendency to adapt to negative situations, her abduction was not nearly as bad _to her_ as what you are projecting. She really seems to be getting on with her life. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/70 "2006-06-23T16:54:07Z")
[QUOTE=KGS] Actually, you are wrong. Insanity can be quite comforting. That’s why some people choose to go insane, because they cannot tolerate the real world. In that case, give 'em anti-psychotic meds. Force them to focus, return to reality, and REALIZE where they are and what they did. That’s a much, much bigger torment than babbling nonsense at the walls all day. Think of this…antipsychotic meds can have debilitating side effects. [Akathisia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia), for example, is excrutiating torment – made worse by the fact that shrinks don’t see it as any big deal. I can’t even imagine what that’s like if you’re locked in a 6x9 cell! Also…why the insane hatred? Elizabeth Smart wasn’t murdered, she wasn’t even raped (I think…correct me if I’m wrong about that.) Children have a natural tendency to adapt to negative situations, her abduction was not nearly as bad _to her_ as what you are projecting. She really seems to be getting on with her life. [/QUOTE] As I remember, she was sexually abused. But she’s getting ready for college and looks like she’s going to be just fine. Of course you never know, but I’d bet on it. Sexual abuse doesn’t necessarily mean you’re fucked up for the rest of your life. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/71 "2006-06-23T17:03:33Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Nope, but I have witnessed clear situations where a child showed _obvious_ signs of being abused when I was a child, but no one would believe me. And then they turned out to be true. [/QUOTE] Stop playing the Wounded Bird program. It’s not healthy. You can’t save everyone. [QUOTE=Ludovic] It’s okay for everyone else. But not for me. [/QUOTE] Sounds like somebody’s being attacked The Conspiracy. That’s a tough program to break. Try watching “The Matrix” on LSD a few times, eventually you’ll find your way out. Just ignore the stupid sequels. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/72 "2006-06-23T17:38:47Z")
Wait! I got it! \*\*Ludovic \*\*is demonstrating for us what it would be like to be insane. He’s so clever, and we all missed it! It’s like reading this thread and nothing else, ever! Punishment, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/73 "2006-06-23T19:51:38Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Ludo’s the big bitch now. Lemme massage your dirty little prostate before I go out and fuck my daughter senseless. Jackass. [/QUOTE] Were you to be a patient of mine, I’d extend to you all the professional dignity and respect I extend to any human. This despite the fact that I personally hold you in an extraordinarily high degree of contempt now. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/74 "2006-06-23T19:58:48Z")
Is it just me, or did **Ludovic** actually accuse **Qadgop** and **elfbabe** of incest? **Ludovic** , dude, what the fuck is _wrong_ with you? I mean, under what circumstances would a person say that? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/75 "2006-06-23T20:01:04Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Ludo’s the big bitch now. Lemme massage your dirty little prostate before I go out and fuck my daughter senseless. Jackass. [/QUOTE] What the fuck is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/76 "2006-06-23T21:12:03Z")
Jesus…this thing just went down a dark, one-way path. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/77 "2006-06-23T21:18:36Z")
It didn’t even enter my mind that the words would be taken that way. However, I would like to apologize for my previous acquiescence to the allegation that I would sacrifice health and safety of correctional workers. I get into more trouble agreeing to things that I’d never say in the first place… Even if I had perfect power and perfect knowledge, I would hope to have the strength to resist implementing such as regime, as my mind realizes that it is not in everyone’s interest. I’m sorry for the devaluation of your profession under that statement, even if it was clear to me that I emphasized I would never recommend it under any rational circumstances. (And while we’re at it, if I were the judge in this case, I’d probably grudgingly order medication as well, due to the fact it seems legally warranted and for the 3 or more other reasons I’ve brought up this thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/78 "2006-06-24T09:38:08Z")
Why would you approval be grudingly done? The person has not been tried yet, merely accused. The idea of the medical regimen is to enable the accused to have the ability to defend against the charges brought. Now, if the accused is convicted and then sentenced to prison, the corrections personnel are responsible for the health and well-being of the prisoner. That, of course, includes treatment when warranted for mental illness. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/79 "2006-06-24T12:19:04Z")
The grudgingly would be because of my visceral reactions to this topic. This case, even. Normally I am the most sceptical person I know about railroading people through the system, even in cases like these, for reasons which should be clear by my other posts. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711/80 "2006-06-24T12:53:53Z")
So, basically what you’re saying is that you would do what human decency, compassion, and the law require even though you don’t agree with the aforementioned things? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sentence-you-to-insanity/361711.md?page=5)