# I sick of ralph124c and his stupidity. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321 "2008-10-03T14:34:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/221 "2008-10-06T06:11:36Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > **mShar** is suspended? I thought he didn’t break any rules. 😕 [See here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=486496) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/222 "2008-10-06T06:46:35Z")
That fucking sucks. I don’t think things that get edited out should be held against one officially. _Informally_, yes, we, as a community, all know he posted it and can use that info to inform our opinions, but I think the mods shouldn’t act on stuff like that. Clearly he thought better of it afterwards, and deleted it. Again, bad call. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/223 "2008-10-06T09:12:31Z")
Fuck it, I’m gonna cash this in. > [@Midnight Restaurant Customers](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/midnight-restaurant-customers/466012/87): > > You know what, ivan, I generally do not insult other people on this board, but I have to make an exception for you. You never contribute anything useful. **mshar** may have committed a net faux pas in bringing an ‘innocent’ into an argument, but **Argent Tower’s** sin of threatening violence to a board member should be unforgivable. Contrary to **Smart Alec’s** opinion, _nothing_ said on a message-board warrants a threat of violence. If these exchanges were made in the physical world, maybe they would have led to violence( most likely initiated by AT and SA!), but here on the Dope, the keypad is supposedly mightier than the knuckleduster, and should be seen to be so. Is this a useful enough contribution for you, AT? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/224 "2008-10-06T09:17:54Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > … This is a very odd thread, from my missing word in the title to the direction the thread has taken. And you said you stink at pittings. :dubious: 😃 CMC +fnord! > [@MrDibble](#): > > … I don’t think things that get edited out should be held against one officially. … Clearly he thought better of it afterwards, and deleted it. … That’s what preview is for. How long do ya think the PTB will put up with folks posting shit that they _should know_ crosses the not quite invisible line and then editing it out? That IMHO is abusing the edit privilege, using it like that shouldn’t get you suspended, it should get your ass banned. This is (probably) exactly why we didn’t have the option of editing posts ('till recently) and exactly why we’ll lose it (if we ever do). - Last edited by crowmanyclouds; 10-06-2008 at at 5:32 AM. Reason: Removed copyrighted, false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasion of a person’s privacy, and violative of U.S. law stuff, 3 direct links to illegal pornography, 7 death threats (2 mods, 4 members, 1 guest), and complete instructions on how to crash the boards servers. Ya know, basically broke ALL the rules in one post. But since I edited it all that out, should it count?\* ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/225 "2008-10-06T13:16:39Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Why don’t you stop trying to goad me? Or what? You’ll get your girlfriend to beat him up? You had a chance to take the high road and by all indications you didn’t even _consider_ it. The original shot at your girlfriend (as a side note, I don’t find her particularly attractive, either) was childish and vapid, certainly. A grown-up would’ve shrugged or laughed it off. Instead, you’re an idiot who jumps into mudpiles with idiots, and proud of yourself for doing so and assuming that all right-thinking people would do the same. p.s. I sometimes post to the snarkpit, under my real name. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/226 "2008-10-06T13:47:35Z")
Damn this stinks. \*\*Mshar \*\*did not deserve to be suspended for the reason given. He thought better of it and removed. It was not like he changed it after someone called him for it, he thought better of it himself. I think he acted stupid and juvenile in this thread and I believe he made a false charge about Mob mentality. But, he did not deserve suspension for this one thread. Though he thought better of, it is not as if \*\*AT \*\*took the high road in response. I’m reasonably sure **ralph124c** is not reading this anymore, but in case you are I hope you try a little fact checking in the future. You managed to learn how to use the shift keys to make ( ), now maybe you can learn how to use Google or some other tool to verify what you post. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/227 "2008-10-06T13:54:15Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Damn this stinks. \*\*Mshar \*\*did not deserve to be suspended for the reason given. He thought better of it and removed. It was not like he changed it after someone called him for it, he thought better of it himself. Agreed. And if they _are_ going to suspend him, they should also suspend **AT** for suggesting a violent response to the comments was warranted. What’s good for the goose, and all. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/228 "2008-10-06T14:16:41Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > [See here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=486496) [quote=] mshar253 has been suspended for one month due to his use of “sideways vagina” as a racial slur against Asians in this post. He first posted without the slur, then edited the post to add it in, and finally removed it with a second edit. Regardless of how long it was visible, it shouldn’t have been posted and is a clear violation of our rule against being a jerk (among others). [/quote] Can someone explain to me how a sideways vagina is a racial slur against Asians? I’m sure I should be offended, but I just don’t get it. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/229 "2008-10-06T14:25:45Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > Can someone explain to me how a sideways vagina is a racial slur against Asians? I’m sure I should be offended, but I just don’t get it. 😕 There’s a “rumor” among very young (ie. old enough to know what a vagina is, not really old enough to know what to do with one) schoolboys that Chinese or Japanese women/girls have sideways vaginas- ie., a left-to-right positioning. I have no idea where it came from or who would be dumb enough to believe it, but it persists as a sort of running joke among some adults. It’s the kind of thing you can joke about if you’re east Asian- I know a bunch of Korean and Chinese chicks who do, and one even uses it as her user name for websites. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/230 "2008-10-06T14:33:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > There’s a “rumor” among very young (ie. old enough to know what a vagina is, not really old enough to know what to do with one) schoolboys that Chinese or Japanese women/girls have sideways vaginas- ie., a left-to-right positioning. > > I have no idea where it came from or who would be dumb enough to believe it, but it persists as a sort of running joke among some adults. > > It’s the kind of thing you can joke about if you’re east Asian- I know a bunch of Korean and Chinese chicks who do, and one even uses it as her user name for websites. Fascinating, thanks for the education. Learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![A\_shameful\_cracka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@A\_shameful\_cracka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_shameful_cracka)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/231 "2008-10-06T14:43:42Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > [Sure.](https://oncourse.iu.edu/access/content/user/akentisa/Filemanager_Public_Files/may-1-2.jpg) I wouldn’t say beaten with a bat ugly, but gorgeous is not exactly accurate. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/232 "2008-10-06T14:58:22Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Actually, **gonzomax,** I’m sorry I was so insulting to you. I think your posts usually DO make sense, despite what I said, and honestly, while the punctuation errors are annoying, they’re far from incomprehensible, and I’m willing to overlook them. I really don’t think you’re stupid, and I apologize for saying so before. I think you are basically a good guy and looking back on it now, there was no reason for me to have been so vindictive. Have at it. I don’t really care. If you feel better go for it. I am pretty non violent. If someone said something about my wife ,it would not be about her at all. It would just reveal something about them. I would laugh at the childish attempt. I would never get angry. But thats me. If you and XT get happy making remarks about me and feel better after, I have achieved some purpose. Go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/233 "2008-10-06T15:14:08Z")
You are not the first one, **AT** - my family has been made fun of, when I posted some pictures, long ago. I was pretty angry and offended, but it’s not like this board is some high arbiter of morality. People always say the Dope is this and the Dope is that but it’s just comprised of people, after all, with lots of flaws. Making fun of my family? Calling them…what was it now, I think it was “fat” (true for some of them) and “immigrants” (well - yeah, so am I) and something else insulting to Indians? Well, at least I have a family. It’s dysfunctional but there it is. I felt the same way - make fun of me all you like, not them, as they can’t answer back. I am not going to scold you for your response; it’s been done plenty. But it would do you well to remember him saying your girlfriend is unattractive doesn’t make her unattractive - except to him. I just wanted to let you know it’s happened before, and hell, it’ll happen again. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/234 "2008-10-06T15:14:53Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > bolding mine. > > Holy shit! Post drunk much? Just very tired; it was after 1:00 AM. I don’t drink at all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/235 "2008-10-06T16:22:07Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Agreed. And if they _are_ going to suspend him, they should also suspend **AT** for suggesting a violent response to the comments was warranted. What’s good for the goose, and all. And his later wishing death on the Snarkpit. Since **Argent** wasn’t warned about them because of his provocation by **mshar** , now that **mshar** is suspended, I suggest they even things up by registering an official warning against **Argent Towers** for the over the line things he’s posted in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/236 "2008-10-06T16:42:27Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > That’s what preview is for. Then why have an edit feature at all. > [@](#): > > How long do ya think the PTB will put up with folks posting shit that they _should know_ crosses the not quite invisible line and then editing it out? I don’t know, but however long it is, I should hope it started with warnings, not suspensions. > [@](#): > > That IMHO is abusing the edit privilege, using it like that shouldn’t get you suspended, it should get your ass banned. For repeated violations, I can maybe see this, but for one? Really? > [@](#): > > This is (probably) exactly why we didn’t have the option of editing posts ('till recently) and exactly why we’ll lose it (if we ever do). I use edit, but if it goes won’t miss it much, but that’s not the point. What’s next, banning people for things they say in PM? I think someone wanted to send a message about the original remark, but by now it was too late, as admonishments were already issued about that. So this is what gets done instead. I do not like the precedent. FTR, I don’t like what mshar **said** and don’t particularly care to defend him over it, it’s more the precedent set I want to have overturned. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/237 "2008-10-06T17:15:24Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > \ > I think someone wanted to send a message about the original remark, but by now it was too late, as admonishments were already issued about that. So this is what gets done instead. I do not like the precedent.\ I agree; it seems really silly to me to suspend someone for something you can’t even point to now. Linking to the post in question that has the slur edited out of it is ridiculous. He got it; he fixed his error. If the Powers That Be are going to allow us a five minute window to reconsider our sins, I would suggest that they only rule on what stands after those five minutes are over. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/238 "2008-10-06T17:50:59Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I think someone wanted to send a message about the original remark, but by now it was too late, as admonishments were already issued about that. So this is what gets done instead. I do not like the precedent. > > FTR, I don’t like what mshar **said** and don’t particularly care to defend him over it, it’s more the precedent set I want to have overturned. I really agree with this. ---
**Author:** ![AngryIrishLass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@AngryIrishLass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngryIrishLass)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/239 "2008-10-06T18:07:27Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > \ So my question then is–okay, somebody gets verbally abusive for no reason to you or to your loved one, then decides you’re an easy mark because you won’t fight back, then decides to go ahead and beat the holy fuck out of you–at what point would you be willing to forego your serene detachment and either do your level best to put the asshole in/on the ground or allow a bystander to do so? \ The difference between your scenerio and what happened here is that dipshit said that about the girlfriend on the internet. There was no verbal abuse to the girl. As far as we know she hasn’t even read the comment. So really, whose honor is **Argent** defending? Additionally, dipshit is entitled to his opinion, as harsh as it is. \*\*Argent Towers \*\*typed out a post, more than one, wishing bodily harm on others because they didn’t agree with him. And that’s acceptable? :rolleyes: Lately, it just seems \*\*Argent Towers \*\*doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up. His ‘opps, sorry’ and ‘they aren’t members’ doesn’t cut it. \*\*Mshar \*\*at least had the good sense to edit his drivel. ---
**Author:** ![criminey.jicket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@criminey.jicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/criminey.jicket)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/240 "2008-10-06T18:25:08Z")
It would be my opinion–not that it matters–that **AT** should be banned for threatening death upon another poster, an SDMB no-no that should not be afforded a warning. **Mshar** certainly should NOT have been suspended for editing out the racial slur. He did so of his own accord and not after admonishment by any poster(s) or moderator. Good job, [del]Message Board Thought Police[/del], mods! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321.md?page=13)