# I sick of ralph124c and his stupidity. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321 "2008-10-03T14:34:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![A\_shameful\_cracka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@A\_shameful\_cracka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_shameful_cracka)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/281 "2008-10-08T13:48:33Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Is that really necessary? Come on… don’t be a dick. I feel like he was probably trolling, hoping someone would say something negative so he’d have an excuse to go all bad-ass on them. Unless he’s totally deluded, he has to know she’s not very attractive, yet he repeatedly posted pics of her and talked about how gorgeous she was. Seem suspicious. My wife is not unattractive (I think most would agree she’s better looking than moon-face) and I’m not ashamed of her at all - I love her with all my heart. But even if I had her permission, I wouldn’t post a picture of her on a message board full of strangers and say she was beautiful, because I know to most people she is not…she’s a rather average looking woman in her mid thirties who has a few extra pounds and looks her age. ---
**Author:** ![criminey.jicket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@criminey.jicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/criminey.jicket)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/282 "2008-10-08T15:06:35Z")
> [@A\_shameful\_cracka](#): > > I wouldn’t say **beaten with a bat ugly, but gorgeous is not exactly accurate**. > [@A\_shameful\_cracka](#): > > Well, to be fair, he only talked about her appearance, something he did know about because Argent Towers posted her picture. If you post a picture of a \*\*plain girl with a face nearly as wide as it is tall \*\*AND talk about how gorgeous she is, somebody is going to bite. > [@A\_shameful\_cracka](#): > > I feel like he was probably trolling, hoping someone would say something negative so he’d have an excuse to go all bad-ass on them. **Unless he’s totally deluded, he has to know she’s not very attractive** , yet he repeatedly posted pics of her and talked about how gorgeous she was. Seem suspicious. Bolding mine. Behold, **cracka** , the little gems held in every one of your posts in this thread thus far. What should we infer from them? That you have a savant-like talent in backhanded compliments, or that you live in a cold, damp, noisy environment? My opinion, at this point, is that you’re a shoo-in for president of Ducks’ Dirty Cookware, Inc. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/283 "2008-10-08T16:12:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What I’ve never heard of is Jews being accused of being in control of a particular state government- there’s lots of “Jews control the world” and not much “Jews control Liechtenstein”, or whatever. Obviously, controlling the world via shadowy cabals\* makes it unnecessary to mess with running individual countries. Ya gotta think big. \*Are people in cabals commonly referred to as caballeros, or is that sexist? Are there Bilderburgerettes? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/284 "2008-10-08T16:37:10Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*Are people in cabals commonly referred to as caballeros, or is that sexist? Are there Bilderburgerettes? _Cabal_ as in shadowy oranizationy thing comes from the Hebrew _qabbalah_ (like the Madonna thing) which means something along the lines of “stories handed down from generation to generation”. I think it specfically refers to rabbinical interpretation of the Torah. There are no reliable records of Bilderberg attendees- Bilderberg doesn’t do press releases, and the only lists come from crazy right wing types- but Maggie Thatcher is known to have attended at least once before becoming PM. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/285 "2008-10-08T17:15:28Z")
“BANNED”? Well, I know to keep my opinion about **AT** ’s girlfriend’s looks to myself now, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/286 "2008-10-08T17:25:06Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > “BANNED”? Well, I know to keep my opinion about **AT** ’s girlfriend’s looks to myself now, I guess. I think you can safely voice your opinion (well, **AT** might respond). It was pretty clear that particular poster was trying to stir things up; he made a subtly provocative attempt in another thread as well, in my opinion anyhow. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/287 "2008-10-08T17:43:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > “BANNED”? Well, I know to keep my opinion about **AT** ’s girlfriend’s looks to myself now, I guess. Probably just discovered to be a sock. I would guess his posting just got a Mod to do a little digging. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/288 "2008-10-08T17:43:14Z")
Well, that’s another right turn into weirdness for this thread. Thanks, **What Exit** - you really know how to throw a captivating thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/289 "2008-10-08T17:46:57Z")
The mods usually don’t ban someone just for a single instance of stupidity…nor for any one thing. They usually have a laundry list of reasons. I agree with What Exit?..prolly a sock, possibly some previously banned poster coming back to harass other posters for perceived slights in the past. -XT ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/290 "2008-10-08T17:46:59Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > Well, that’s another right turn into weirdness for this thread. Thanks, **What Exit** - you really know how to throw a captivating thread. 😃 Can you imagine what would happen if I was actually any good at pitting people. The thought is frightening. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/291 "2008-10-08T17:53:24Z")
One banning and a suspension … and neither of those is the Pittee! Talk about your collateral damage. ETA - I knew probably a sock or Warning magnet, but I felt like making the funny, you know… ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/292 "2008-10-08T18:40:37Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Can you imagine what would happen if I was actually any good at pitting people. The thought is frightening. Agreed. I vote **What Exit?** is never allowed to start another pit lest we all get banned, the hamsters have heart attacks and the internet comes alive and devours us all. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/293 "2008-10-08T19:27:51Z")
**What Exit?** starts Pit thread - global economy craters. Coincidence? You be the judge. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/294 "2008-10-08T19:34:11Z")
I think you make a good case. I’m wondering why no one noticed s/he made threads on August 25 2005 and Dec 26 2004…and his classic thread started on Oct 24, 1929… This guy (gal?) is a menace… -XT ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/295 "2008-10-08T19:34:27Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > **What Exit?** starts Pit thread - global economy craters. Coincidence? You be the judge. Now wait a minute, That was already teetering worse than a house of cards. At worse I bumped the table a bit. 😉 **xtisme** , I’m a middle-age guy, with wife and kids. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/296 "2008-10-08T19:53:54Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > How can ANY group “as a voting block” have more influence than their numbers should allow? Are they voting twice? I know the American system allows for an election to go against a straight majority vote, but only in real borderline cases. Am I misunderstanding this statement? Well, you have to realize several things about American politics then. The first is that not all people vote. In fact, in many states/elections, most people _do not vote_. Jews, as a voting block, tend to have a much higher voter turnout than other ethnic groups. Also, when looked at as an aggregate whole, Jews tend to give more money to political campaigns than many other similarly sized groups. Jews also, generally, tend to let their religious values (e.g. Tikun Olam) influence their voting, and as a result many vote for Democrat candidates. For purposes of comparison, think Cuban-Americans in Miami, losing ‘the Cuban vote’ can have disastrous consequences even for national political campaigns. Further, while Jews make up a very small percentage of the national population, they’ve tended to live/settle around a small number of geographic locations, and so represent a fairly reliable “block” of votes in places like New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc… So you have important political districts with a populace that has high voter turnout, spends money on candidates and issues they support, generally tends to swing their votes as a block and has proven to be fairly competent at getting their message out in the main stream media through a variety of PAC’s, groups, lobbying firms, etc… ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/297 "2008-10-08T20:06:12Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] xtisme, I’m a middle-age guy, with wife and kids. [/QUOTE] Ah…‘he’ then. It matters not of course what your sex is…or your age…you were still responsible for the stock market crash! I clearly remember the thread you started, though I wasn’t alive at the time of course… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/298 "2008-10-08T20:09:27Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Well, you have to realize several things about American politics then. The first is that not all people vote. In fact, in many states/elections, most people _do not vote_. Jews, as a voting block, tend to have a much higher voter turnout than other ethnic groups. > > Also, when looked at as an aggregate whole, Jews tend to give more money to political campaigns than many other similarly sized groups. Jews also, generally, tend to let their religious values (e.g. Tikun Olam) influence their voting, and as a result many vote for Democrat candidates. For purposes of comparison, think Cuban-Americans in Miami, losing ‘the Cuban vote’ can have disastrous consequences even for national political campaigns. > > Further, while Jews make up a very small percentage of the national population, they’ve tended to live/settle around a small number of geographic locations, and so represent a fairly reliable “block” of votes in places like New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc… So you have important political districts with a populace that has high voter turnout, spends money on candidates and issues they support, generally tends to swing their votes as a block and has proven to be fairly competent at getting their message out in the main stream media through a variety of PAC’s, groups, lobbying firms, etc… Thanks (and also to D-Odds). Very interesting. Now I feel sorry I asked for this in this thread, it would have made for an interesting thread on its own. Is there really no room for Tikun Olam (which I had to google) to be argued into voting Republican? It sounded very open in the wikipedia entry and not necessarily forcing a Democratic vote. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/299 "2008-10-08T20:25:58Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > Thanks (and also to D-Odds). Very interesting. Now I feel sorry I asked for this in this thread, it would have made for an interesting thread on its own. Pffffft ,don’t be sorry. Ignorance is a _good_ thing because it means we can still learn things. _Willful ignorance_ is the only thing that’s unforgivable. I’m glad I could help explain it a bit. > [@Sapo](#): > > Is there really no room for Tikun Olam (which I had to google) to be argued into voting Republican? Sorry, I forget sometimes that not everybody can sling the lingo. :smack: And while it could be _argued_ that Tikum Olam is compatible with Republican social/economic policies (two Jews means three opinions, after all), it’s generally a hard argument to make. Tikum Olam means “fixing/healing the world”, and generally is taken to be an active commandment to achieving social justice, environmental stewardship, racial equality, etc… I remember, for instance, that the temple I belonged to while growing up had a prayer during Passover where we thanked God for delivering us from slavery in Egypt, but continued on to say “While anybody is still in bondage, I am not free.” Such ideas tend to lend themselves more to support of traditional Democrat social/economic initiatives rather than Republican ones. Although, of course, during the civil rights struggle, many Jews often found themselves smack dab in the opposition to folks like the Dixiecrats, so strict party-loyalty is a bit of a fiction. Still, most Jews tend to reliably vote Democrat, and I’d argue (and have seen argued) that beliefs like Tikun Olam play a major part in that trend. > [@Sapo](#): > > It sounded very open in the wikipedia entry and not necessarily forcing a Democratic vote. That’s largely because Wikipedia articles are generally written by twelve blind monkeys on ritalin. 😉 [This](http://www.myjewishlearning.com/daily_life/GemilutHasadim/TO_TikkunOlam.htm) should be a much better link. My apologies for not providing it initially and forcing you to deal with the dozen monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321/300 "2008-10-08T21:48:03Z")
Guys, one of the things I’m learning is that I can get worked up about people like this, or I can go have my own life. I’ve never been able to significantly change these people by complaining, so I’m wasting my own time, not even theirs. Even paying them this much attention probably only encourages their attachment to this board. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sick-of-ralph124c-and-his-stupidity/466321.md?page=16)