“Ghetto” as an adjective, maybe?
Huh? I did a quick google (savage -dan -michael) - nothing “racist” comes up at all. Where are you getting this idea from?
Since “ghetto” always referred to a poor urban area which is majority-minority, how did that definition change? This article for example says nothing about it being “racist”. Or this one.
I have no clue. Personally, I routinely use ‘savage’ to refer to plenty of non-Black groups (Pashtuns, for example).
“lazy”. It’s never good to be called lazy, and it’s not a race-specific word, but in America calling a black person “lazy” comes with additional baggage. Its use when applied to blacks may or may not be racist-tinged. E.g. when rightwing commentators call Obama lazy for taking one mumbling day off or playing basketball, that can be assumed to be racist. Same with the “angry black man/woman”.
Another example would be “devious” or “sneaky”, which are still applied to people based on their behaviour regardless of race but if you use them to describe Asian guys that’s dicier, again due to historical baggage.
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You seem to believe that it’s only inappropriate if white people use the N-word? That seems to be a rather racist position, if you ask me.
Oh for fuck’s sake, not *this *horseshit again.
You can substitute non-Black for white if you prefer. But yes.
And seriously. Prejudice + power. I mean, for fuck’s sake. Read a book.
OK, you find racism to be acceptable. You’re entitled to your opinion.
What book do you recommend? Archie? Batman? Harry Potter?
FYI - Kobal2 doesn’t want people to debate this topic any further. Didn’t you understand his dog whistle?
That is an astounding misrepresentation of the facts. It also appears to be deliberately offensive and deliberately obtuse. I would dearly love to assume that’s for rhetorical effect and you’re going to follow it with a more cogent point?
Nah, he’s pretty clearly one of those white people who thinks the only racism that still exists is the sort that affects him personally. You see these sorts wherever white men gather.
Posts for historical reference -
Astounding? Astounding misrepresentation of the facts? Let’s take a look at the instant replay.
Shin Ji - was completely inappropriate for white people to use in nearly any situation
doorhinge - it’s only inappropriate if white people use the N-word
Shin Ji - Yes
doorhinge - OK, you find racism to be acceptable.
What is astounding about that exchange?
So…you *honestly *believe that it’s racist to say that African-Americans should have a near-monopoly on the word “nigger?”
There’s probably no point in engaging. I’m certain doorhinge does believe exactly that.
Without such brave posters, who will stand up for the rights of the white people? Specifically, their rights to use disparaging slurs against the people their ancestors enslaved not to terribly long ago.
In the U.S., is the N-word unacceptable? Yes, or no?
Referring back to my post on Godwin’s Law, Mike Goodwin believes that using the term Nazi to describe others (non-Nazis) actually trivializes the Holocaust. I agree with him.
I happen to believe the N-word is equal in social stigma to the term Nazi. I believe the general use of the N-word trivializes the meaning of the N-word, as well as it’s history, and its associated baggage. I also believe that the light-hearted, or friendly, use of the N-word among black people also trivializes the meaning of the N-word. I sometimes wonder how offensive can the N-word be, if some black people use it as a greeting, or self-identification?
What other words do you believe should awarded a near-monopoly based on skin color?
The words are uncomparable. “Nazis” refers to a group that, collectively, did terrible things. “Nigger” refers to a group that, collectively, had terrible things done to them. Those are not comparable at all.
I see those sorts in this very thread.
Is anyone else amused that, for the most part, the people in this thread who are complaining about the supposed “language police” are typing “n-word,” while the actual people accused of being the language police are writing “nigger?”
No particular surprise there. The word police, as self-appointed social justice warriors, know they are free to use the n-word without it causing a tidal wave of condemnation. Those claiming “thug” has not crossed over into racial insult are perceived as the bad guys (and even worse, probable conservatives) and were they to use the actual word it would be played as proof of their racism and used to derail whatever points they try to make.
I guess I’m the exception to that rule. I could see myself typing the actual word if there was a real need for it, or if I was quoting someone, but generally it’s one of the very few words I don’t even like to type out.
That’s just me, tho.