# I still use iTunes! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 23, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571 "2023-03-23T22:35:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![2\_More\_Bits](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2_more_bits/32/4148_2.png) [@2\_More\_Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_More_Bits)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/1 "2023-03-23T22:35:28Z")
Yes iTunes! Not Apple Music. And my (Classic) iPods. I mostly listen to music while I’m working on my desktop computer or use an iPod when I am traveling. I’m still able to buy new music on iTunes (and I do). It prompts me to update to a new version of iTunes but I’ve been ignoring the message. I don’t ever want to change. What does the future hold for me? How long will my beautiful Classic iPods, with 18,000 songs on them, keep working? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/2 "2023-03-23T22:39:45Z")
I used iTunes until I installed an update and it deleted iTunes and replaced it with Apple Music. ☹ I still use an iPod Touch (4th Gen?). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/3 "2023-03-23T23:27:38Z")
I have two iPod touches 4th generation. I used ITunes on my windows machine to add music to them recently. I don’t use any other apple products. Does Apple have a better system now? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/4 "2023-03-23T23:39:13Z")
Hello, my name is JAQ, and I am an itunes purist. I still use it. It’s my main home stereo source. I make ipods for hiking or road trips. I have movies and TV shows on it. I hope I never have to switch. I hate apple telling me what I need, (I still like classic iMovie. I hate the thing they give you now. I cna’t get the results I want, but iMovie does exactly what I want.) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/5 "2023-03-24T04:42:03Z")
Preach it, people! I’ve kept my MacBook and my iPhone a couple of versions behind, just because I love iTunes. Yes, I’ve got a couple of iPods (I love my 5th Gen. Nano, because it has FM radio!), but once I saw my daughter skip back 30 sec. while listening to a book on her iPhone, I’m mainly using that. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/6 "2023-03-24T05:09:07Z")
I still use iTunes. I sometimes wonder if I should switch to streaming, but frankly I don’t really understand it. What do you do if your internet is flaky, or even nonexistent? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/7 "2023-03-24T11:27:29Z")
Well, I am fully Android for phones, now. No streaming required, though I have Youtube Premium that includes a streaming music service(nice when I don’t own something). Of course, no Itunes. On Android, you can just drag your music over to the phone like on Windows Explorer. It automatically looks for music in the music folder and that is how I play things. Does Apple do that now? My memory of my Ipod Touch Gen 4 was that Itunes literally had to manage your music for you. You had to essentially tell Itunes to “add” or “sync” mp3’s to your device. I go back to DOS and pre OSX Apple and I just want to drag my files over and directly manage things myself. Did Apple ever allow that? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/8 "2023-03-24T12:12:13Z")
I used itunes until i got a new Mac. Now i use music. Are they very different? ---
**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/9 "2023-03-24T12:22:52Z")
I still use iTunes every day. And my 250 gb Ipod. I have a boatload of music on the iPod and it’s still only half full. My only gripe with iTunes is when you buy a record, sometimes, for whatever reason, you don’t always get every song. (That happened to me with the Rolling Stones at El Mocambo record). I also still have LPs, CDs, DVDs, and a typewriter. So there. ---
**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/10 "2023-03-24T13:15:34Z")
I would still use iTunes if my laptop with it on it hadn’t died. Now I use MusicBee. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/11 "2023-03-24T14:07:49Z")
I updated and can no longer load to my iPod Nano. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/12 "2023-03-24T14:14:50Z")
I seem to recall that you can disable automatic updates on iPods, important if you don’t want to risk losing functionality. My music listening these days consists mostly of random rock shuffle on an iPod Classic. It’s a dying form of tech though. Most people don’t want to own music and have their entire library in a convenient portable form; they’d rather rent songs indefinitely, hoping their favorite stuff will always be available. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/13 "2023-03-24T15:46:33Z")
I still use my iPod classic too, along with iTunes. I have to do all the podcast updating manually on it, and I haven’t added any music since Dickety-six or so but it still does for me most of what I want it to do. It stopped trying to update me a few years ago, as it said it no longer supported my iPod. So basically I don’t know what’s going on, but I don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/14 "2023-03-24T15:50:04Z")
Add me as well, and I do catch static for it. Yeah, I have lots of music on my phone, but there’s just something so handy, and so sensible about being able to listen to my chosen tunes that come from an aluminum wafer the size of a Cheez-it cracker…and _without_ depleting my phone’s battery. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/15 "2023-03-24T15:51:21Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I seem to recall that you can disable automatic updates on iPods, important if you don’t want to risk losing functionality. Don’t they stop updating? I don’t think my Ipod 4th gen ever had an update past years and years ago. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/16 "2023-03-24T22:21:44Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Did Apple ever allow that? Yes\_\_ ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/17 "2023-03-24T22:25:47Z")
> [@Jaycat.again](#): > > My only gripe with iTunes is when you buy a record, sometimes, for whatever reason, you don’t always get every song. (That happened to me with the Rolling Stones at El Mocambo record). What happens when you redownload the album? ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/18 "2023-03-24T22:35:42Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Now i use music. Are they very different? They aren’t functionally different. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/19 "2023-03-24T22:39:24Z")
Yeah, never willingly giving up my iPod Classic nor my iPod Touch. One day, they will stop working, and I have no idea what I will do. Until then, they’re my main way of listening to music. And I have my lessons, coachings, and practice sessions loaded on them as well as conventional music. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571/20 "2023-03-24T22:56:12Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > What do you do if your internet is flaky, or even nonexistent? If you have no internet access, a streaming service is probably not for you. Your mobile internet is going to have to be exceptionally flakey if it can’t handle streaming a few songs. But you can still download all the music you want for offline play via your home internet or a free public wifi spot. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-still-use-itunes/981571.md?page=2)