# I submit that John Kerry is just as stupid as George Bush

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 14, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198 "2004-10-14T15:26:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/21 "2004-10-14T16:14:45Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> I submit that this thread is just as stupid as George Bush.

Stupider.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/22 "2004-10-14T16:21:38Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Wow, that is one truly desperate OP.
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> Well, I looked it up on the internets and it turns out that Kerry was absolutely wight.

Good one, Elmer.  
What’s the matter? All the liberals on this board can’t take someone pointing out their candidates foibles?  
I don’t really give two shits about what either candidate says or how they say it. All I care about is what they actually do in office.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/23 "2004-10-14T16:22:47Z")

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[http://radio.weblogs.com/0100655/images/2002/02/03/elmer\_fudd.gif](http://radio.weblogs.com/0100655/images/2002/02/03/elmer_fudd.gif)

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/24 "2004-10-14T16:29:36Z")

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> [@MrFantsyPants](#):
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> well, it’s not Bush’s intellectual abilities that make him a scary leader, IMO.
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> For instance, I believe strongly that Bush is far more intelligent than a lump of stale tofu. I do think, however, that the tofu would do a better job of running your fine country.

Is a lump of stale tofu running for president?

Finally! A candidate I can stand behind! I, for one, am excited about this campaign! For too long our electorial choices have been limited to stale rhetoric laden candidate that are chosen by political party elites who are out of touch with the US people. But this tofu candidate changes all of that! All of us have had the opportunity to touch bean curd. Stale tofu will probably make a highly inactive president, but that’s a joyous improvement over the what we have now.

Worried about Kerry’s gun control past? Tofu will take no action on it! Worried about Bush’s tax cuts? Tofu promises no more cuts! No more raises! Worried about the US running off and getting involved in more foriegn wars? Tofu promises not to do anything concerning foreign policy! Worried that Kerry is too liberal? Tofu promises not to introduce any legislation! Finally a president that recognizes that we already have too many damn laws! Well… he might not actually recognize that as he has no cognitive abilities, but his inaction will be the same!

I was rather dreading the election before, but now I am looking forward to voting tofu!

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/25 "2004-10-14T16:32:07Z")

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> [@Blackclaw](#):
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> Is a lump of stale tofu running for president?

Not in all states, but [yes.](http://www.votenader.org/)

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**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/26 "2004-10-14T16:37:59Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> What’s the matter? All the liberals on this board can’t take someone pointing out their candidates foibles?

Ooooh, indeed! We’re all in a tizzy. This thread certainly has inflamed passions on our side of the aisle. We’ve quite lost control of ourselves, haven’t we? I may have to lie down for a few moments with a cool cloth over my eyes, and resume this heated debate later.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/27 "2004-10-14T16:40:46Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> What’s the matter? All the liberals on this board can’t take someone pointing out their candidates foibles?

So, pointing out the obvious, that the candidate’s opponent has worse and more frequent foibles, equates to not being able to “take” it? That’s a bizarre interpretation. Nobody is writhing in pain that I can tell.

I suppose if somebody accuses Bush of marrying into money, Bush supporters should just “take it” and not mention that Kerry did the same?

(I have no idea if Laura Bush has money, just an example)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/28 "2004-10-14T16:43:39Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Nobody is writhing in pain that I can tell.

I am, but I just banged my knee on my desk.

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/29 "2004-10-14T16:46:39Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> Not in all states, but [yes.](http://www.votenader.org/)

Are you suggesting Nader is tofu? I must strongly object! Tofu promises to do nothing for the country. Nader promises to pretty much destroy its economy. Tofu has just as much political experience as Nader, has never treated its’ campaign workers like wormfood and has never acted like a pretentious hag.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/30 "2004-10-14T16:57:34Z")

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But it turns out Tofu can be bought.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/31 "2004-10-14T17:03:32Z")

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Tofu has also recently been seen consorting with soy sauce and raw fish. Are these the kinds of allies our country needs?!?!

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/32 "2004-10-14T17:04:42Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> But it turns out Tofu can be bought.

I suspect any of the other candidates can be too. Just not as cheaply.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/33 "2004-10-14T17:13:07Z")

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Has it occurred to _anyone_ yet that Tofu spelled backwards is ufot?

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/34 "2004-10-14T17:13:51Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> Tofu has also recently been seen consorting with soy sauce and raw fish. Are these the kinds of allies our country needs?!?!

Oh I see, that’s the kind of campaign we are going to have to face. Just having barely announced its candidacy, and already tofu is getting a smear campaign.

I suppose the fact that tofu tastes like a moldy wet sponge will be brought up next. But is it taste what we want in a president? Well no one has bothered to taste Kerry! No one has bothered to taste Bush!

Ok, so that didn’t come out right.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/35 "2004-10-14T17:15:58Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Has it occurred to _anyone_ yet that Tofu spelled backwards is ufot?

:eek: And they both have four letters! Coincidence? I think not.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/36 "2004-10-14T17:17:22Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> even now the GOP is probably preparing an attack ad portraying Kerry as a wuss and suggesting that real men only make three-alarm Texas chili.

As a native NewMex’cun, I realize I’m terribly biased against Texas, and against all non-Neuvomexicanos in general . . . but I’d be terribly surprised if President Bush’s pasty white New England ass could handle _real_ chili.

Not that Senator Kerry could, mind, but at least he doesn’t pretend to be yee-haw.

Oh, and I for one welcome our new stale tofu overlords.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/37 "2004-10-14T17:31:32Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> If we’re going to quibble about little things that Bush gets wrong when he speaks, then we might as well do the same thing for the guy who wants his job.

Bring it ON!

These are just a few within the _last thirty days_:

> [@George Bush](#):
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> \*\*“I heard there’s rumors on the Internets that we’re going to have a draft.”
> 
> “The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off.”
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> “When a drug comes in from Canada, I wanna make sure it cures ya, not kill ya… I’ve got an obligation to make sure our government does everything we can to protect you. And one — my worry is that it looks like it’s from Canada, and it might be from a third world.”
> 
> “Let me see where to start here. First, the National Journal named Senator Kennedy the most liberal senator of all.”
> 
> “The enemy understands a free Iraq will be a major defeat in their ideology of hatred. That’s why they’re fighting so vociferously.”
> 
> “You know, it’s hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm’s way.”
> 
> “I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America. It’s pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future.”
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> “I’m not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America, where it’s nice and safe and secure.”
> 
> “It’s the Afghan national army that went into Najaf and did the work there.”
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> “Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat.”
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> “Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.”

\*\*

Back to you, Skippy!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/38 "2004-10-14T17:43:00Z")

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I can’t believe either of these morans is going to be the next CIC.

/weeps for humanity

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/39 "2004-10-14T17:44:54Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> I can’t believe either of these morans is going to be the next CIC.
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> /weeps for humanity

My point exactly.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/40 "2004-10-14T17:53:46Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> I can’t believe either of these mor **a** ns is going to be the next CIC.

:: cough cough :: 😉  
I’d at least like a commander in chief who has commanded.

I just have two more points to contribute and then I’ll go stink up someone else’s thread:

1. **Neither man is stupid.** Bush is an awful public speaker, but he has done something none of us here could even dream of: He’s become the POTUS–which arguably none of here \*could \* do for want of connections–but more to the point, he’s gotten his way ever since, and will get reelected because he’s SMART enough to appeal to a large portion of the masses he himself has kept confused and disorganized. Pure genius. Evil? Sure, but not stupid.

2. This thread is approaching the end of the first page and NOBODY has stepped up with a “Fucktard” or “Asshat.” What is the world coming to?

/weeps for humanity

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