# I submit that John Kerry is just as stupid as George Bush **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198 "2004-10-14T15:26:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/41 "2004-10-14T17:55:36Z")
I’m so glad that we now have the Internets to propigate such valuable information, something we couldn’t do in the days of buggy and horse and Dred Scott. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/42 "2004-10-14T17:59:02Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > … honest-to-goodness oral fuckups … You might wish, for the sake of clarity, to substitute “verbal”… ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/43 "2004-10-14T18:10:55Z")
Tofu?!?!? Don’t make the mistake we Canadian’s made years ago when we voted in food stuffs into office. It was one embarrassing moment after another when Primeminister [Poutine](http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=15867) was in power ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/44 "2004-10-14T18:12:19Z")
> [@Inigo Montoya](#): > > Erm… [wight](http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG255a.jpg)? > > :eek: > > Never mind…I’m not voting !!! Is it scary that I thought the same thing? Or that there is a resemblance? ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/45 "2004-10-14T18:14:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You might wish, for the sake of clarity, to substitute “verbal”… Since they were both speaking in a forum, I chose oral. If the slang term of _oral_ gets in the way of this, I’m sorry-not my problem. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/46 "2004-10-14T18:20:30Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Has it occurred to _anyone_ yet that Tofu spelled backwards is ufot? Actually that’s not true. That’s what the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy wants you to believe. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/47 "2004-10-14T19:19:02Z")
> [@](#): > > “Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat.” Oh, Bush didn’t really say _that_, did he? I’d remember that one! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/48 "2004-10-14T19:19:41Z")
> [@](#): > > whim of a hat Band name! ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/49 "2004-10-14T19:29:01Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > Oh, Bush didn’t really say _that_, did he? I’d remember that one! Source: [\*\*President’s Remarks at Victory 2004 Luncheon – WhiteHouse.Gov](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/09/20040917-4.html)\*\* > [@](#): > > And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/50 "2004-10-14T19:30:56Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > Since they were both speaking in a forum, I chose oral. If the slang term of _oral_ gets in the way of this, I’m sorry-not my problem. > > Sam I’m sorry, did I forget to turn my humor on for that post? I’m sure it was meant as a joke. Sorry if I took it too seriously. Politics is the king of de-humorising. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/51 "2004-10-14T19:52:17Z")
Jeez, and I have some pretty bad-ass hats, too . . . ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/52 "2004-10-14T19:59:58Z")
I’ve got the final and absolute proof as to which candidate is the smarter … oh, never mind. Anyway, let me quote … :wally ---
**Author:** ![DarkPrince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DarkPrince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkPrince)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/53 "2004-10-14T20:02:18Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Is it scary that I thought the same thing? > Or that there is a resemblance? IMHO, what’s scary is that I was thinking of exactly that picture before I even clicked the link. :o ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/54 "2004-10-14T21:45:48Z")
[QUOTE=Inigo MontoyaBush is an awful public speaker, but he has done something none of us here could even dream of: He’s become the POTUS–which arguably none of here \*could \* do for want of connections[/quote] What’s so hard about this? If you’re halfway charismatic and willing to sell your soul to Karl Rove, you, too, can be the next President of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/55 "2004-10-15T01:06:43Z")
Lord Ashtar No, I do not think you can make that assertion. This is something that is quantifiable and if I had to “bet the ranch” on which was the smarter of the two, it would be John Kerry - no question. John Kerry was on “Firing Line” with William F Buckley about 30 years ago and Kerry was one of the few people that could compete as an equal with that sesquipedalian sharpshooter. Was “Dubya” ever on “Firing Line”? If so, I’d love to have that video. I think “Dubya” would have trouble keeping up with the cast of “Hee Haw”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/56 "2004-10-15T01:31:31Z")
It’s kind of ironic, given how Kerry has been criticised for not acting “human” enough, that when he makes an all-too-human slipup it gets poked fun at. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/57 "2004-10-15T02:52:02Z")
UFOT, PEOPLE, UFOT! I gotta lay off the gin and tonic… ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/58 "2004-10-15T04:22:16Z")
Urban folk often train? Ulcerated feet oblige treatment? Unadvised fellation openly traumatises? ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/59 "2004-10-15T04:39:30Z")
Unidentified Flying Offensive Tracts ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198/60 "2004-10-15T11:55:00Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > UFOT, PEOPLE, UFOT! > > I gotta lay off the gin and tonic… What? You think yelling it will make us get it? the tonic is OK, just watch the gin [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-submit-that-john-kerry-is-just-as-stupid-as-george-bush/269198.md?page=4)