# I suppose it's recreational outrage, but I want this man hurt

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070 "2015-01-05T22:27:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/21 "2015-01-06T02:31:47Z")

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My gut is telling me NOT to click that link so I wont.  
This is probably the first time I’ve ever NOT been annoyed that the OP didn’t leave a brief summary of the link provided.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/22 "2015-01-06T03:33:53Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> No doubt the shitbag in question is entitled to all his Constitutional rights and guarantees, same as folks who aren’t shitbags. I’m just saying that if it should come to pass that he died a protracted, agonizing death where he spent every moment praying that he might, at last, be allowed to die just to escape the pain, I wouldn’t feel the tiniest particle of sympathy for him. It wouldn’t make me happy, really, to know that he spent what seemed like an eternity helplessly screaming and writhing. What would make me happy is if shitbags didn’t kill babies (or anybody else). What it would make me, is a little bit satisfied in a bleak sort of way, that the shitbag in question was paid what he earned.

A-fucking-men to exactly this.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/23 "2015-01-06T04:46:28Z")

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> [@Personal](#):
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> This is one of the few things that I’ve read in the Pit today that does not smack of recreational outrage.

Not in the OP, but **Frank** and **John Mace** seem to be working it pretty hard.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/24 "2015-01-06T05:19:19Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> There is waaay too much horror perpetrated in the world on others every single day for me to be able to be outraged by even a fraction of it. I reserve my outrage for situations that affect me directly, and even then I have to work to get past it, or I ain’t good for shit.

It is a struggle for me daily not to care. That sounds callus but nearly everyday I see images of abused animals on commercials or fictitious child abuse or rape on cop shows my wife watches and I cant help remembering it all and thinking about it often.

A friend once described a PETA video of fur trappers skinning a live raccoon and just his discription of the thing haunts me.

I know there is suffering in the world, I do donate less than I should to worthy causes, but damn the reminding of it all so often sickens my soul.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/25 "2015-01-06T06:01:00Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> The link says “LA Times” in it, so that’s a certain give-away. But other than picking the 3 largest states, by population, and thus increasing your chances over picking any other three… what do you base this on?

I did not focus on the link at the time. Neither did I base it on the three largest states by population. I based it on “another sicko out there” and they seem to permeate the states of CA, FL and TX.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/26 "2015-01-06T06:52:49Z")

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**Baker** - the first few times I saw the acronym “RO”, I thought it meant “Righteous Outrage”. Perhaps regarding this horrific act with that in mind will help us view our understandable reactions in a different light. I mean this definition of “righteous” :

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> 1. (Of a person or conduct) morally right or justifiable; virtuous.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/27 "2015-01-06T07:08:08Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> I did not focus on the link at the time. Neither did I base it on the three largest states by population. I based it on “another sicko out there” and they seem to permeate the states of CA, FL and TX.

Yeah, but those _are_ the three largest states by population. They hold over a quarter of the population of the entire country. It’s not really surprising that you hear a lot of stories about crazy people coming out of those states - we’ve got more of every kind of person, crazy and otherwise.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/28 "2015-01-06T07:36:41Z")

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I like to think of the US as a giant party tray and the East Coast was picked up higher than the West Coast so that all the best fruits and nuts rolled to the West Coast.

Not gonna click on that link. Nope. No siree.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/29 "2015-01-06T09:49:15Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> My recreational outrage is limited to hoping that he is caught, convicted, and sentenced to an appropriate term in prison.

Some crimes are so horrendous that an “appropriate term in prison” isn’t enough.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/30 "2015-01-06T12:20:01Z")

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If, after reading or hearing about a horrific crime, you find yourself fantasizing about horrific crimes being visited upon the perpetrator, you should consider the possibility that you are identifying with the wrong party to the event.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/31 "2015-01-06T13:00:05Z")

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> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#):
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> If, after reading or hearing about a horrific crime, you find yourself fantasizing about horrific crimes being visited upon the perpetrator, you should consider the possibility that you are identifying with the wrong party to the event.

Right. The fact that that Baker despises the evil sumbitch who murdered a baby and would like him to feel at least a fraction of the suffering he inflicted on her means that Baker secretly wants to be like him.

What utter bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/32 "2015-01-06T13:45:10Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Some crimes are so horrendous that an “appropriate term in prison” isn’t enough.

It isn’t ‘enough’, but I’m against giving the government the power to punish horrendous crimes harshly enough, because I know they’ll misuse it.

I’m willing to live with the disappointment that people like this only get life in prison.

There’s also something about the description of this crime that screams untreated mental illness.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/33 "2015-01-06T14:06:48Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> What utter bullshit.

Appropriate signature line for a swing-and-a-miss of a post. Nobody said the OP secretly wants to be the perpetrator, but congratulations for having the initiative both to invent that position and being first to disagree with it. Having bravely and successfully defended the OP from the attack you imagined, you are probably tired, so I’ll take the floor for a moment.

Violent ideation, including vengence fantasy, is a bad, mentally unhealthy habit that probably most of us have indulged in. But we shouldn’t, not least because it gives us something in common with the monstrous ones. You can’t build a just and peaceful society like that.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/34 "2015-01-06T14:54:06Z")

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Twaddle.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/35 "2015-01-06T15:04:09Z")

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Exactly how many high horses are allowed in a pit thread?

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/36 "2015-01-06T16:52:15Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Yeah, but those _are_ the three largest states by population. They hold over a quarter of the population of the entire country. It’s not really surprising that you hear a lot of stories about crazy people coming out of those states - we’ve got more of every kind of person, crazy and otherwise.

Yeah, but certain patterns of crime do give rise to certain generalities. For years now my Dearly Beloved™ and I have shared a riff. A child will go missing in some state OTHER than Florida. One of us will remind the other that in Florida, young blonde white girls stand a 1:3 chance of being kidnapped, buried in a shallow grave or steel box and left to die.\*\*\*\*\* It has happened so much that at this point, we’ve gone past shock and RO and right into gallows humor.

My cousin was born in Florida. She was a cute blonde little girl and played outside all the time in the early and mid 1960’s- \* never once realizing that every hour spend at play increased her chances of becoming another KABBG ( Kidnapped And Buried Blonde Girl ). \*

It’s not funny at all. And yet… the mind compensates. Frequently with humor as well as outrage.

\*\*\*\*\* A pretty damning corollary to this is that apparently little brown and black and yellow and every other color of girls never go missing in Florida. Because we never hear about it in the Media. Because, you know.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/37 "2015-01-06T17:12:00Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Frank, I want him to experience the pain the baby went through.

Well, he’s most likely in Mexico, so there ya go!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/38 "2015-01-06T19:54:47Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> What it would make me, is a little bit satisfied in a bleak sort of way, that the shitbag in question was paid what he earned.

This is where believers in some sort of cosmic/divine postmortal justice or balancing-of-accounts have the advantage, I must admit.  
And yes, the mere reaction of wishing that someone who did this suffered proportionately is just an understandable expression of outrage. It doesn’t turn anyone into “one of them” unless he begins plotting an act of vigilantism to make it so.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/39 "2015-01-06T20:14:10Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> \*\*\*\*\* A pretty damning corollary to this is that apparently little brown and black and yellow and every other color of girls never go missing in Florida. Because we never hear about it in the Media. Because, you know.

Well, when you look at the picture of poor Eliza Delcruz, it’s sure that little brown girls go missing in California, and the media puts it out there.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-suppose-its-recreational-outrage-but-i-want-this-man-hurt/709070/40 "2015-01-06T21:22:26Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Exactly how many high horses are allowed in a pit thread?

1. 

Wait, was that rhetorical?

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