# I sure hope CairoCarol is OK

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 29, 2022, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721 "2022-11-29T05:14:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/21 "2022-11-30T19:36:20Z")

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Here are a couple more shots - there were essentially two types of views, both awesome, depending on how far down the road we were.

Further away, the eruption looks like [an enormous, ominous glow in the the night sky.](https://imgur.com/3YWYa7u)

Once you get closer, you can see [the actual rivulets of lava spilling down the mountainside](https://imgur.com/0xVufY9).

Either way, extremely cool!

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Looks like Mile 16 to 31 pass right by the mountain, and not only have the best views, but the highest risk, and THAT’S why they are enforcing this rule

At the moment, the reason for the rules has less to do with thinking people are going to come into direct contact with the lava, or even the fumes (even as I write, the eruption is still 3 miles away from the road, though obviously it’s going to get closer and possibly reach the road soon), and a lot more to do with traffic safety. The highway does not have streetlights to illuminate it, because the whole island is kept as dark as possible at night so as not to create light pollution for the telescopes on Mauna Kea. Even if it did, things are still hard to see at night - especially when the driver is distracted by an amazing natural phenomenon like the lava flow!

So the risk of collisions and injuries skyrockets when everyone is rushing off to see the lava. Cars parked on the side of the road, and people getting in and out of their cars and even crossing the road, is a traffic tragedy waiting to happen.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/22 "2022-11-30T20:46:19Z")

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A good friend of mine was very nearly killed when he was riding his motorcycle on a highway in the Everglades. He came upon a brush fire near the road with smoke blowing across the road. Entering the smoke he was ready for nearly anything. Except what he found in the smoke: _all_ the lanes blocked with parked cars while people got out to take pictures of the flames. He hit a stopped car while going about 20mph. Which wasn’t so bad, but then a car hit him from behind going even faster.

After a couple years’ healing and therapy he can still walk, but it was a very near thing.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/23 "2022-11-30T20:48:55Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Once you get closer, you can see [the actual rivulets of lava spilling down the mountainside](https://imgur.com/0xVufY9).

Wow. Did you happen to see two little guys with hairy feet, looking for a place they could dump a magic ring?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/24 "2022-11-30T20:57:17Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Did you happen to see two little guys with hairy feet, looking for a place they could dump a magic ring?

One does not simply walk to Hawai’i.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/25 "2022-11-30T21:35:33Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Are they in or near Hilo?

Yup, in Hilo on the eastern edge of the Kaumana Inundation zone.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/26 "2022-11-30T22:54:12Z")

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Unless you’re a robot on “Gilligan’s Island.”

@CairoCarol, those are great pictures! Thanks for taking and posting them.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/27 "2022-11-30T23:07:17Z")

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Photos, Wow! Now that’s a situation. It’s on the move, looks like. 💍 🔥

I think another HI doper is @Didi44

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/28 "2022-11-30T23:13:41Z")

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I think @Didi44 is on 'Oahu, but they’ll have to verify that; I’m not sure.

AFAIK I am the only currently active Doper on the Big Island; there used to be another poster who is on island part time as he owns a property that he operates as a B&B (his house is not that far away from me). I tried to reach out to him once, as I wanted to know who built the great stone wall in front of his property, but he never responded. And he hasn’t posted since before the migration to Discourse, so I doubt he’s coming back.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/29 "2022-12-01T01:31:58Z")

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Here’s some nice aerial footage on YouTube from the Department of Land and Natural Resources. At about 3:20, you get a good view of how the lava simply spilled across the Mauna Loa access road. Saddle Road may be next, I guess. THAT’s going to be a major headache and it’s looking pretty likely.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/bzI7Ovn8jr8/maxresdefault.jpg "Aerial footage of the Mauna Loa eruption on Nov. 30, 2022") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzI7Ovn8jr8)

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/30 "2022-12-01T02:59:03Z")

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I was watching ABC News tonight and they said there is a possibility of the lava overflowing the road, but it will be a couple of days before anyone knows for sure if that will happen. Kind of the opposite of flash flooding, I guess.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/31 "2022-12-01T03:24:06Z")

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Imagine an unstoppable utterly lethal tortoise ambling straight towards your house.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/32 "2022-12-01T03:50:56Z")

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Which direction does the prevailing wind blow in the islands?

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/33 "2022-12-01T05:48:05Z")

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I think east to west, more or less. Certainly East Hawai’i is considered the “windward side.” But it’s variable. If there is a sulfur gas producing event occurring, it’s smart to keep up to date on whether the winds are going to bring it your way or not, since the answer can change fairly often.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/34 "2022-12-01T05:48:40Z")

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[Northeast](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=What+is+the+prevailing+wind+direction+in+Hawaii%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0p9GL3Nf7AhU2kIkEHaEXDjAQzmd6BAghEAU&biw=1175&bih=977&dpr=1)

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/35 "2022-12-01T12:39:03Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/36 "2022-12-01T13:00:47Z")

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If I’m not mistaken, more frequent, gentle eruptions are actually good because it prevents a volcano from building up the kind of pressure that eventually produces a Krakatoa or a Mount St. Helens kind of event. As volcanoes go, it seems to be percolating rather benignly. Thank God for that!

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/37 "2022-12-01T13:10:06Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> As volcanoes go, it seems to be percolating rather benignly.

The Hawaiian volcanoes are [Shield Volcanoes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_volcano), that’s the way they work.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/38 "2022-12-01T13:13:57Z")

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Interesting!

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/39 "2022-12-01T14:54:28Z")

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The more … entertaining … kind are these

> **[Stratovolcano](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratovolcano)**
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> A stratovolcano, also known as a composite volcano, is a conical volcano built up by many layers (strata) of hardened lava and tephra. Unlike shield volcanoes, stratovolcanoes are characterized by a steep profile with a summit crater and periodic intervals of explosive eruptions and effusive eruptions, although some have collapsed summit craters called calderas. The lava flowing from stratovolcanoes typically cools and hardens before spreading far, due to high viscosity. The magma forming this

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-sure-hope-cairocarol-is-ok/975721/40 "2022-12-01T18:50:18Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So the risk of collisions and injuries skyrockets when everyone is rushing off to see the lava. Cars parked on the side of the road, and people getting in and out of their cars and even crossing the road, is a traffic tragedy waiting to happen.

AAANNNDDD here we go (from today’s local paper):

> Multiple vehicle collisions already have been reported among drivers attempting to view the lava, with one Tuesday evening crash sending two passengers to the hospital.
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> According to a county news release, that crash occurred at about 9:05 p.m. Tuesday, when a car that was idled on the highway’s shoulder attempted to pull back into traffic and was struck by another vehicle. Six people were involved in the crash, with two requiring medical transport for minor injuries.
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> The Pohakuloa Training Area’s Fire and Emergency Services reported Wednesday that it has responded to three “serious” accidents on the highway since the eruption began.

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