# I think anti-bullying programs are a bunch of crap.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 10, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587 "2013-11-10T18:17:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/41 "2013-11-12T19:09:46Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Is this the first time you’ve had the impulse to check if what you believe is true?

Sailed right over your head, didn’t it?

Figures.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/42 "2013-11-12T19:11:37Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> It seems more likely that there’s a bit of unwritten sarcasm/snark in **Clothahump** ’s question.

More than a bit.

> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> And more likely that **Lobohan** was going for the burn.

Nah, he went for the fail. And hit it big-time.

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**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/43 "2013-11-12T20:04:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> That which does not kill us has made a tactical error.

I laughed.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/44 "2013-11-12T20:18:21Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> More than a bit.
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> Nah, he went for the fail. And hit it big-time.

I’m okay with you not understanding what’s going on, I expect that. You’re an angry child in a middle-aged man’s body.

But to assist those what may be legitimately confused, you posted a sarcastic response to the OP. I posted a comment that took your comment at face value. Which highlighted your tendency to be completely unwilling to accept facts that challenge the jumble of nonsense you call an ideology.

Was I aware that you were being sarcastic, yes. Were you so fucking stupid you assumed my mocking you meant I wasn’t, yes.

Keep fuckin’ that chicken, Clothy.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/45 "2013-11-12T22:29:16Z")

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Sorry, **Lobohan** , but you didn’t appear to do any such thing. If that was your intent,[ya done messed up](http://memecrunch.com/meme/N8JD/ya-done-messed-up/image.png).

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/46 "2013-11-13T05:27:05Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> And they only benefit the kids who do it, so they can learn new abuse techniques and how to hide what they do.

As the bullies increase the sophistication of their techniques, the other kids and the adults will also increase the sophistication of their understanding of these techniques.

When your 11 year old comes home with stories of how some kid tried to do an end-run around the anti-bullying policies, that’s pretty great. When he comes home the next day and tells you how the bully got caught and punished anyway, that’s even better.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/47 "2013-11-13T07:40:30Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I don’t know about you, but I’m dipping her pony tails in the ink well the second she returns.

That’s not bullying, that’s how you show that you like her.  
For getting that wrong I’m gonna make you smell my dirty gym socks.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/48 "2013-11-13T09:13:51Z")

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What the hell is going on here?

Is no one aware that Clothahump\*, does, in-fact, teach a very effective anti bullying programme?

One that does have pretty good success with both bullies and bullied alike?

- If I’m keeping my posters straight…

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/49 "2013-11-13T19:18:00Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> What the hell is going on here?

I’m not sure what you mean. Other than the OP, all the posts here have either been facetious, in favor of anti-bullying programs, or mixed.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/50 "2013-11-15T03:31:13Z")

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I’m gonna give the OP such a wedgie when she comes back.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/51 "2013-11-15T03:59:47Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Is that like the wolves scene in _300_?
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> While I generally agree with setting wolves on small children, we’re going to need a lot more wolves.

Won’t coyotes do? We’ve got plenty of **those.** I understand they’ve even been spotted here in Florida.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/52 "2013-11-15T05:58:11Z")

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Bullying ceases to be a problem once all the children learn the principles of [LLAP-GOCH](http://www.llapgoch.org.uk/).

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/53 "2013-11-15T11:13:17Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I was just saying what I thought, and felt this was the best forum to do so. I didn’t plan on being mocked.
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> :rolleyes: :smack:

I get mocked for complaining about what a worthless piece of shit my girlfriend’s brother is. And you think you’re not going to get flack for such a poorly-thought-out post? Serious lack of foresight there.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/54 "2013-11-15T15:33:04Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I get mocked for complaining about what a worthless piece of shit my girlfriend’s brother is. And you think you’re not going to get flack for such a poorly-thought-out post? Serious lack of foresight there.

To be quite truthful, you got mocked because of all of the OTHER things you said in that thread.

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**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/55 "2013-11-15T17:51:23Z")

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See, I thought I could get on board with this one.

My kids’ school has an anti-bullying program with assemblies and all kinds of stuff but the reality is that my kid is still getting bullied and there is little they can do about it (which is the same thing I have heard from other moms).

So, here I am telling her to stand up for herself but the administration says that’s not the way to handle it. She should tell the teacher. Yeah, that’s a great way to fit in better. Be a tattle-tale. Poor kid!

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/56 "2013-11-15T18:03:55Z")

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> [@perfectparanoia](#):
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> See, I thought I could get on board with this one.
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> My kids’ school has an anti-bullying program with assemblies and all kinds of stuff but the reality is that my kid is still getting bullied and there is little they can do about it (which is the same thing I have heard from other moms).
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> So, here I am telling her to stand up for herself but the administration says that’s not the way to handle it. She should tell the teacher. Yeah, that’s a great way to fit in better. Be a tattle-tale. Poor kid!

The school can’t do anything as long as the culture remains that a person that tells the teacher is worse than a person who shames or hurts others for fun. That’s what the assemblies and posters and such are designed to do: to shift that culture.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/57 "2013-11-15T18:20:22Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> **nearwildheaven** has been around since April and has made 1,859 posts (and, I think, is female). She is clearly _not_ a drive-by troll.

Drive-by or not this retard is a troll.

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I was just saying what I thought, and felt this was the best forum to do so. I didn’t plan on being mocked.
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> :rolleyes: :smack:

So you’re stupid as well as being retarded.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/58 "2013-11-15T18:32:16Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> The school can’t do anything as long as the culture remains that a person that tells the teacher is worse than a person who shames or hurts others for fun. That’s what the assemblies and posters and such are designed to do: to shift that culture.

Assemblies and posters? Meh. We need something like [this](http://i.imgur.com/T0iHaGg.jpg)!

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/59 "2013-11-15T19:17:56Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Well, pro-bullying programs would teach the picked-on kids how do dish it out right back, so there’s that.

Just what we need. Kilkenny Cats. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-anti-bullying-programs-are-a-bunch-of-crap/673587/60 "2013-11-15T20:57:26Z")

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While I’m not against anti-bullying programs, I think there’s too much hysteria over it. Some teasing or bullying toughens a kid up and teaches them that not everything in life is going to go their way. Plus the kid gets the satisfaction of seeing his/her bully grow up to be less successful than they are.

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