# I think Elizabeth is in for a big surprise (FBOFW Comic)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 4, 2007, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670 "2007-01-04T09:39:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/121 "2007-01-17T20:55:28Z")

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[QUOTE=anu-la1979]  
Also, I kind of hate you, **Jodi** , for getting me caught up in this drama…but it’s a friendly commiserating hate. I agree with you completely and I haven’t read this strip since 1999.  
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Don’t blame me! It’s wierdly compelling in a horrific sort of way, kind of like watching a trainwreck, _you can’t turn away, you have to see how it ends_!

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/122 "2007-01-17T21:13:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Bridget Burke]  
The Anti-Anthony screed linked earlier indicates there’s FBOFW FanFic.

Any slash? If so, Anthony/Warren stories may well exist!

_(Must not search right now…)_  
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Correction: I meant _Paul_/Warren slash.

Although really odd combinations often show up. (Remembering the Ares/Joxer stories that shocked my Xenoid “youth.”)

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/123 "2007-01-17T21:18:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Ah, hovel-owner, not hove-lowner, which was how was reading it.

Me, too. And I like it better that way, so I’ll just make up my own definition. 🙂

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**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/124 "2007-01-17T21:28:24Z")

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Okay, maybe the Goblinkleins don’t own the hovel, but they were cooking up crack and baby stew and plotting the murder of the Jew in the downstairs dungeon when they burned down the Castillo, weren’t they? And now Deanna will have to turn tricks behind the pharm and even worse, Michael is gonna start SLINGING OBITS to put cheese and crackers in Merrie and Robin’s mouths and it’s all because the Von Meanies don’t like the bayyyyyybeeeess.

I read this one strip where the Evilkopfs were bitching about Merrie and Robin’s stank backyard baby pool with a dead frog and 7 years worth of accumulated pond scum. So eeeeeeeevil.

Also last week Mama wore a fuzzy sweater with frock me boots and Daddy Trains had to push her ass up into the restaurant which is why women should never wear frock me boots ever ever ever.

This strip has turned into a delicious slice of awful. I can’t wait till Warren gives Liz syphilis and Anthony anvils in to save the day.

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**Author:** ![ninevah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/46a35a/32.png) [@ninevah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ninevah)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/125 "2007-01-18T23:55:12Z")

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[QUOTE=anu-la1979]

Also last week Mama wore a fuzzy sweater with frock me boots and Daddy Trains had to push her ass up into the restaurant which is why women should never wear frock me boots ever ever ever.

This strip has turned into a delicious slice of awful. I can’t wait till Warren gives Liz syphilis and Anthony anvils in to save the day.  
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_snort_

Lately, the strip has been so predictable that the only good thing about it is reading all the snarky comments in this thread and the other livejournal communities.

My bet is that Liz will end up with Warren, after _finally_ noticing that he’s been the one patiently waiting for her, and being there for her.

But I hate the way Elly and John have been about her relationship with Paul - first Elly sets her up with him, encourages it. Yes, of course, he’s Mr Wright/Right! Then, when Paul’s not around during Liz’s trial, Elly and John shitcan him for not being around and John even notes in his letters that he thinks Anthony’s a better option. WTF? Bloody hypocrites!

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**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/126 "2007-01-19T00:41:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
I would recommend to everyone, though, [April’s Real Blog](http://aprilsrealblog.blogspot.com/), which tells all the dark secrets that the comic strip won’t.  
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Thanks for the plug! I play Liz Patterson on April’s Real Blog.

IMHO, Liz is a jerk. If you review her behavior over the last six years, it becomes apparent that Liz is a manipulative brat with a short fuse who actively tried to keep Anthony’s interest, even after he married. She always treated Paul and Warren badly, withholding affection and attention for long periods, then giving short bursts of it before withdrawing again.

Liz was also hung up on Anthony throughout her relationships with Paul and Warren. In one strip, she was shown to keep a framed photo of Anthony right next to a photo of herself and Warren. The pictures were next to a bunch of beefcake pinups and the strip made it clear that these were the men Liz had romantic/sexual feelings for (no pics of family or friends). Her desire to move back south emerged immediately after she found out Anthony was divorced.

Anthony and Liz deserve each other.

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**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/127 "2007-01-19T00:44:53Z")

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[QUOTE=ninevah]  
My bet is that Liz will end up with Warren, after _finally_ noticing that he’s been the one patiently waiting for her, and being there for her.  
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You’re wrong. I’ll bet money on it.

Anthony has been built up over the last few years as such a wonderful man in the eyes of Elly and John. Lynn will not fail to reward his “suffering.”

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/128 "2007-01-19T19:29:48Z")

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Well, it looks like Gary is thinking she should take more interest in Warren. She won’t trust him when he’s away from her (because of Paul) and he will break up with her once and for all. She will run to Anthony.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/129 "2007-01-19T19:49:33Z")

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(rofl) **Anu-la** , I think you need to talk to the comics syndicate about taking over when Lynn finally quits. In the mean time, set up an independent website, and post your daily interpretations of each FBOFW strip.

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**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/130 "2007-01-19T20:16:29Z")

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**Sattua** , it’s funny you should mention but now that **Jodi** has drawn my attention to the trainwreck, I was thinking of starting a daily FBOFW bitch post on my blog. But I do a lot of projects on my blog and don’t keep up with them so I’m afraid of starting something I can’t finish.

Plus, like I said, it only caught my attention because **Jodi** has posted on it before and I’m trying to catch up on 8 years of not having a print newspaper.

In the meantime, how many frocking times can Warren “blow off course over Mtigwaki” before it looks all suspicious-like on his daily 'copter log?

Lynn Johnston is such a narcissist though…lurve how she’s giving Liz Elly’s hairdo.

Am I the only one who bust a gut reading this description of “Elly” on the site?

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> Elly Patterson has many titles in life - Loving mother and wife, doting grandmother, understanding mother-in-law, devoted daughter, sensitive friend, patient pet owner and retired former businesswoman.

Awesome, I love how she doesn’t get to what “Elly” is or may be in relation to no one except HERSELF until the very end. The first 10 things listed are Elly’s sainted womanly roles in life.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/131 "2007-01-20T00:06:50Z")

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[QUOTE=anu-la1979]  
**Sattua** , it’s funny you should mention but now that **Jodi** has drawn my attention to the trainwreck, I was thinking of starting a daily FBOFW bitch post on my blog. But I do a lot of projects on my blog and don’t keep up with them so I’m afraid of starting something I can’t finish.  
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If you just want to vent, you can join the crowd over at [the FOOBiverse’s Journal.](http://community.livejournal.com/binky_betsy/) Since you said you’re trying to catch up, I think the FOOB Faq is still on the front page.

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/132 "2007-01-20T01:16:48Z")

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Y’all are gonna be mighty surprised when Liz hooks up with Brad from Luann.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/133 "2007-01-20T01:41:56Z")

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Or with Luan (thus neatly explaining why neither has successful relationships with men). That leaves Gunther for Anthony.

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**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/134 "2007-01-20T04:06:11Z")

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Hey! I _like_ Gunther – don’t be sticking him with stinky old Anthony!

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/135 "2007-01-20T04:12:31Z")

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Does anyone have an idea of the approximate date of Anthony and his ex? I think I missed all of that and I can’t find it in the archives.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/136 "2007-01-20T13:47:41Z")

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Okay all you Anthony haters - He has never cheated on any girlfriend/wife (and he didn’t destroy his marriage, his wife did, and maybe she turned him into the milquetoast he’s become). He saved Liz from that leecherous creep (maybe Liz could have handled him herself, but timing is everything) and he doesn’t push the issue with Liz (anymore). There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy. If he shaves, will some of you get off his back?  
Paul was too creepy at the beginning. Warren would be my choice, but there’s nothing wrong with Anthony

I couldn’t read April’s Real Blog - I cannot read text shorthand, it annoys me and I find myself stopping at every abbreviation and mentally fixing it.

and, **Q. N. Jones** , what do you mean you “play” Liz? BTW, that email from Liz April quoted today? No way who Liz be so bigoted and condescending.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/137 "2007-01-20T14:21:28Z")

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When did Liz get an email from April? I’ve been reading the strip and haven’t seen that.

And as for today, I figured Warren knew what was going on. He’s immediately pushing to get back together too. That would turn me off. I would have chosen Warren, but now it looks more and more like Anthony will be the winner.

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**Author:** ![jacquilynne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jacquilynne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacquilynne)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/138 "2007-01-20T17:23:43Z")

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[QUOTE=anyrose]  
and he didn’t destroy his marriage, his wife did  
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Right. I’m sure him pressuring her to have kids when she very clearly didn’t want them had absolutely nothing to do with it. All her fault, the cow.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/139 "2007-01-20T17:41:28Z")

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[QUOTE=anyrose]

and, **Q. N. Jones** , what do you mean you “play” Liz? BTW, that email from Liz April quoted today? No way who Liz be so bigoted and condescending.  
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He means he “plays” Liz on the blog. The stuff that’s from Liz, like that e-mail you didn’t like, he writes.

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**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-elizabeth-is-in-for-a-big-surprise-fbofw-comic/386670/140 "2007-01-20T18:14:54Z")

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Q. N. Jones is a woman, if I recall correctly.

I disagree with Anthony not cheating. He was in lurve with Liz the whole time-a one-sided emotional affair is still awful to deal with. “Oh, my husband’s in love with someone else but I don’t care because he’s not physically cheating on me!”

Yeahhhh, thank gods for small favours!

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