# I think I genuinely hate people still calling for Hillary to be jailed

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**Created:** [December 8, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182 "2016-12-08T05:00:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/21 "2016-12-10T18:47:42Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Anyone figure out a three-word version of ‘We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore’?

“President Donald Trump,” apparently.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/22 "2016-12-10T19:00:13Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [Like this](http://cdn1.bloguin.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/194/2016/07/2015383-600x356.jpg)?

Wait, bad-hair-guy supporters are the green party?

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/23 "2016-12-10T19:17:07Z")

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Reminds me of: [Swift Boat Veterans Still Hounding Kerry](http://www.theonion.com/article/swift-boat-veterans-still-hounding-kerry-1252)

> [@](#):
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> “Just because that lying, cheating, opportunistic fraud from Massachusetts happened to be the Democratic presidential nominee, people assumed our efforts were politically motivated,” said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffman, chairman of Swift Boat Veterans For Truth.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/24 "2016-12-10T19:18:13Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> You’d think the fact that von Clownstick doesn’t give a shit anymore about locking up Hillary would be a tipoff to his patsies that he was conning them the whole time.
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> But there may not be a big enough clue-by-four in this world to make them realize they got suckered into a cargo cult.

Especially his public statement on the subject: _“That plays great before the election. Now we don’t care, right?”_

Which is worse? That Trump publicly admits the whole thing was just a lie to fool weak-minded people into voting for him? Or that he believes she’s guilty of serious crimes but doesn’t care about enforcing the law?

And Trump said all this at a rally of his supporters - the people he told this to. This is Trump’s declaration to the people who voted for him: _“Wake up, idiots. Everything I told you was a lie. I lied to you to get your votes and you were dumb enough to believe me. Now that I’m elected I don’t need you any more. So fuck all of you. I’m going back to Washington and Manhattan to spend the next four years hanging out with the people who still matter.”_

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/25 "2016-12-10T19:29:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Especially his public statement on the subject: _“That plays great before the election. Now we don’t care, right?”_
> 
> Which is worse? That Trump publicly admits the whole thing was just a lie to fool weak-minded people into voting for him? Or that he believes she’s guilty of serious crimes but doesn’t care about enforcing the law?
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> And Trump said all this at a rally of his supporters - the people he told this to. This is Trump’s declaration to the people who voted for him: _“Wake up, idiots. Everything I told you was a lie. I lied to you to get your votes and you were dumb enough to believe me. Now that I’m elected I don’t need you any more. So fuck all of you. I’m going back to Washington and Manhattan to spend the next four years hanging out with the people who still matter.”_

Heh. Now imagine him naming Hllary Clinton to his cabinet.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/26 "2016-12-10T22:48:54Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I’m not disagreeing with your post in it’s entirety but I will say there is always an opportunity cost. she has the time it takes to lose, and whatever else she could be doing with that time.

Sure, it’s totally up to her to decide whether she has something more important to do than undermining the new administration. I’m just saying that’s what I _personally_ would do (and what I wish she would do).

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**Author:** ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/27 "2016-12-11T00:27:02Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Especially his public statement on the subject: _“That plays great before the election. Now we don’t care, right?”_
> 
> Which is worse? That Trump publicly admits the whole thing was just a lie to fool weak-minded people into voting for him? Or that he believes she’s guilty of serious crimes but doesn’t care about enforcing the law?
> 
> And Trump said all this at a rally of his supporters - the people he told this to. This is Trump’s declaration to the people who voted for him: _“Wake up, idiots. Everything I told you was a lie. I lied to you to get your votes and you were dumb enough to believe me. Now that I’m elected I don’t need you any more. So fuck all of you. I’m going back to Washington and Manhattan to spend the next four years hanging out with the people who still matter.”_

The worst thing he could have ever done was to threaten his opponent. I don’t give the slightest shit whether or not he was sincere.

I must respect the office, but I will never respect the man.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/28 "2016-12-11T00:45:47Z")

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I don’t agree with it, but in 2008 and 2009 a lot of us on the left were calling for legal sanctions against Bush & Cheney too. So this isn’t without precedent.

Of course they committed crimes, but those crimes started under Clinton and an honest investigation would’ve found that out. So under the rug it went.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/29 "2016-12-11T01:45:56Z")

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What the fuck, **Wesley Clark**? That’s the dumbest false equivalence I’ve seen in a while. And the claim that Bush & Cheney’s alleged crimes “started under Clinton” so the Obama Admin chose not to investigate is just a weird allegation.

I repeat: WTF?

Have I been whooshed?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/30 "2016-12-11T12:52:32Z")

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Hillary being just as bad as Trump is a Bro _premise_, not a conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/31 "2016-12-11T14:10:58Z")

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> [@Salvor](#):
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> I was reading an article on the Hill, and the comments had plenty of people still lamenting the fact that she likely won’t be jailed and locked up, even though she deserves it…
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> This is not genteel and kind on my part, but if it were in my power, such hateful and vindictive people would be blasted by a bolt of lightning and knocked unconscious. Not to the point of death, but I’d want a sort of cosmic striking down of such people beyond mere words. That or have them jailed for similar non crimes.

So you have no problem with her committing felonies and not being brought to justice for doing so. Interesting…

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/32 "2016-12-11T14:26:41Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> So you have no problem with her committing felonies and not being brought to justice for doing so. Interesting…

I don’t think that’s what the OP is saying at all, but I’ll let him respond.

Meanwhile, I know you never answer this, but what the hell, I’ll try again: what specific felonies do you think Mrs. Clinton is guilty of?

Bonus question: why, in your view, is your buddy Mr. Trump reneging on his pledge to bring this ‘felon’ to justice?

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/33 "2016-12-11T17:15:29Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I don’t think that’s what the OP is saying at all, but I’ll let him respond.
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> Meanwhile, I know you never answer this, but what the hell, I’ll try again: what specific felonies do you think Mrs. Clinton is guilty of?
> 
> Bonus question: why, in your view, is your buddy Mr. Trump reneging on his pledge to bring this ‘felon’ to justice?

You know Clothy’s only posting in THIS thread to avoid answering uncomfortable questions about their abject moral hypocrisy regarding Trump and religion in other threads. They’re like a dog peeing on neighbor’s lawns but w/o the useful nitrogen.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/34 "2016-12-11T18:29:50Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I don’t agree with it, but in 2008 and 2009 a lot of us on the left were calling for legal sanctions against Bush & Cheney too…
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> Of course they committed crimes

Remind me, have Bush and Cheney been convicted?

No, they haven’t so you can’t say that they did commit crimes. Presumption of innocence applies just as much to them as Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/35 "2016-12-11T19:10:43Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> ETA: Anyone figure out a three-word version of ‘We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore’?

Fuck that shit.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/36 "2016-12-11T19:15:55Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> So you have no problem with her committing felonies and not being brought to justice for doing so. Interesting…

Apparently, that is one thing he has in common with your best butt bud Trump.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/37 "2016-12-11T19:16:24Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Remind me, have Bush and Cheney been convicted?
> 
> No, they haven’t so you can’t say that they did commit crimes. Presumption of innocence applies just as much to them as Clinton.

This post is daft. Absolutely daft. It makes no actual sense at all. The so-called logic on display is puerile and without foundation. The confusion evident is so monumental, it’s a wonder that the entire SDMB software didn’t just puke it right back out and replace it with “DOES NOT COMPUTE”.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/38 "2016-12-11T19:36:09Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> So you have no problem with her committing felonies and not being brought to justice for doing so. Interesting…

I would respond that she’s been exonerated by the courts, but in many cases, she hasn’t. Despite decades of investigations, there wasn’t even enough evidence to be worth prosecuting.

But, hey, why should we need evidence? Trump himself praised Saddam Hussein’s criminal justice techniques: arrest them, torture a confession out of them and then execute them. Yeah, surely that’s what will make America great again… :smack:

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/39 "2016-12-11T20:08:26Z")

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> [@dracoi](#):
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> I would respond that she’s been exonerated by the courts, but in many cases, she hasn’t. Despite decades of investigations, there wasn’t even enough evidence to be worth prosecuting.

The idiot contends that she should be in prison for her handling of classified material. However, 2 posters (I am one of them) who have worked with highly classified material and have experience seeing the penalties that have meted out for the mishandling of classified material have informed him, to no avail, that there is _no way in fucking hell_ she would have been imprisoned for it. But the shit-for-brains is impervious to facts, as we all know.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/40 "2016-12-11T20:10:11Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> The idiot contends that she should be in prison for her handling of classified material. However, 2 posters (I am one of them) who have worked with highly classified material and have experience seeing the penalties that have meted out for the mishandling of classified material have informed him, to no avail, that there is _no way in fucking hell_ she would have been imprisoned for it. But the shit-for-brains is impervious to facts, as we all know.

But, you don’t understand, what she did was worse.

You don’t need to understand why, you just need to agree.

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