# I think I genuinely hate people still calling for Hillary to be jailed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 8, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182 "2016-12-08T05:00:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/41 "2016-12-11T20:12:11Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But, you don’t understand, what she did was worse. > > You don’t need to understand why, you just need to agree. Then she should share a jail cell with Colin Powell. Oh wait, Powell was also against Trump, so that may still come to pass if Bannon has his way. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/42 "2016-12-11T20:28:54Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > So you have no problem with her committing felonies and not being brought to justice for doing so. Interesting… What felonies? The same ones Bush and Cheney didn’t get prosecuted for? Interesting… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/43 "2016-12-11T20:56:29Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Then she should share a jail cell with Colin Powell. Oh wait, Powell was also against Trump, so that may still come to pass if Bannon has his way. Powell was a patriot, you can’t put a patriot in jail for doing the right thing. She was a Democrat, you can put her in jail, because by definition, a Democrat cannot do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/44 "2016-12-11T22:35:25Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Powell was a patriot. Operative word is “was”. He spoke against His Orangeness. Obviously, he is no longer a patriot. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/45 "2016-12-12T09:58:59Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > This post is daft. Absolutely daft. It makes no actual sense at all. The so-called logic on display is puerile and without foundation. The confusion evident is so monumental, it’s a wonder that the entire SDMB software didn’t just puke it right back out and replace it with “DOES NOT COMPUTE”. Were you speaking of what you were writing or what I was? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/46 "2016-12-12T18:02:53Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Remind me, have Bush and Cheney been convicted? > > No, they haven’t so you can’t say that they did commit crimes. Presumption of innocence applies just as much to them as Clinton. That presumption is about the legal system and the consequences it can mete out. The rest of us aren’t bound by that presumption, and are free to say that people have committed crimes, whether or not there has been, or ever will be, a criminal trial. The most one can say about people who make such claims is that it may demonstrate their lack of good judgment. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/47 "2016-12-12T18:13:19Z")
> [@nachtmusick](#): > > The worst thing he could have ever done was to threaten his opponent. I don’t give the slightest shit whether or not he was sincere. Neither do I, but I’m talking about his supporters, and what might or might not get through to _them_. And obviously they didn’t have much of a problem with his threatening his opponent with prison. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Especially his public statement on the subject: _“That plays great before the election. Now we don’t care, right?”_ > > Which is worse? That Trump publicly admits the whole thing was just a lie to fool weak-minded people into voting for him? Or that he believes she’s guilty of serious crimes but doesn’t care about enforcing the law? > > And Trump said all this at a rally of his supporters - the people he told this to. This is Trump’s declaration to the people who voted for him: _“Wake up, idiots. Everything I told you was a lie. I lied to you to get your votes and you were dumb enough to believe me. Now that I’m elected I don’t need you any more. So fuck all of you. I’m going back to Washington and Manhattan to spend the next four years hanging out with the people who still matter.”_ And the scary thing is, they’ll still lap up every word he says. It’s times like these that I think about God, Jonah, and the hundred twenty thousand of Nineveh who don’t know their ass from their elbow. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/48 "2016-12-12T18:32:56Z")
I’m just amazed at how angry the right-wingers/Republicans still are. In 2008, I get it, the Republican supporters were angry when their side lost and they had to get aggressive to fight back against what they perceived as the opposition that was now in control of the government. But it just seems like so many Trump supporters and my Republican friends and family are still seething mad and playing the part of victimized losers. I remember after the election in '08 I was excited and hopeful for the future and didn’t even \*consider \*attacking my conservative friends and family on social media, at family functions, etc. I don’t think I even did it on this here semi-anonymous message board. I mean, why continue attacking? (Example: I had a cousin post something on FB genuinely asking for conservative friends and family to explain something. I was floored how aggressive our conservative uncles and cousins got, and how quickly. My cousin who posted the original question wasn’t attacking, but immediately, Republican Trump supporters came out of the woodwork with “libtard” and “lamestream liberal media” and “crybaby losers.”) But right now, I can’t tell you how many posts on FB have been from right-wing friends who just keep on punching. Or how many shared stories are just complaining about socialists or Muslims or Mexicans or abortion-loving feminists or Hollywood or the media or DemocRATS or our nation’s intelligence agencies or scientists or Hillary Clinton. There’s just so much anger out there…from the fucking winners, for pete’s sake. Are they just that scared of everything that they have the need to continuously lash out? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/49 "2016-12-12T18:43:37Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Clinton is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Just like everyone else. Except there is the Clinton Rule. It reads _presumed guilty until proven guilty - one way or another_. And keep looking until you find something - or make up something. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/50 "2016-12-12T19:09:36Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I remember after the election in '08 I was excited and hopeful for the future and didn’t even \*consider \*attacking my conservative friends and family on social media, at family functions, etc. I don’t think I even did it on this here semi-anonymous message board. I mean, why continue attacking? (Example: I had a cousin post something on FB genuinely asking for conservative friends and family to explain something. I was floored how aggressive our conservative uncles and cousins got, and how quickly. My cousin who posted the original question wasn’t attacking, but immediately, Republican Trump supporters came out of the woodwork with “libtard” and “lamestream liberal media” and “crybaby losers.”) To clarify: That “example” happened recently, not in '08. ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/51 "2016-12-12T19:11:26Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I’m just amazed at how angry the right-wingers/Republicans still are. In 2008, I get it, the Republican supporters were angry when their side lost and they had to get aggressive to fight back against what they perceived as the opposition that was now in control of the government. > > But it just seems like so many Trump supporters and my Republican friends and family are still seething mad and playing the part of victimized losers. > > … > > There’s just so much anger out there…from the fucking winners, for pete’s sake. Are they just that scared of everything that they have the need to continuously lash out? It’s because, deep down, they know they still **are** losers, culturally speaking. Trump is their pathetic attempt to turn back the clock to a day when they were automatically on top by the nature of their race/religion/what-have-you, and everything just fell into place for them. It will, of course, backfire, though most of them are too stupid to understand that when things get worse under Trump, it’ll be a direct result of their own bad decisions. They want to go back to a world where being white and Christian meant you were automatically at the top of the heap, and you didn’t even have to acknowledge the scary “other people” – much less \*compete \*with them! They want to be able to call people “niggers” and “fags” without suffering any repercussions, but they simultaneously want those stuck-up Ivory Tower liberals to stop calling them racist/sexist/homophobic. They’re mad because they want the same head start they used to get in the race of life, but when they succeed they want everyone to have to sincerely tell them it was all due to their own hard work. They want to be able think of themselves as good people, while being free to denigrate anyone from any minority they don’t personally like. They want jobs that require little or no specialized education that pay well and are completely secure. Basically, they want a bunch of things to happen that are more or less contradictory, and they’re dimly aware that they won’t actually get them, so they’re just throwing a big tantrum on a cultural level. They could try to adapt to the world as it is now, but they’re too scared and weak. They’d rather try to force the world to go back to the way it was when they were automatic winners and everything “made sense” to them. Pretty sure that’s what “Make America Great Again” really means. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182/52 "2016-12-12T19:25:30Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I’m just amazed at how angry the right-wingers/Republicans still are. In 2008, I get it, the Republican supporters were angry when their side lost and they had to get aggressive to fight back against what they perceived as the opposition that was now in control of the government. > > But it just seems like so many Trump supporters and my Republican friends and family are still seething mad and playing the part of victimized losers. > > I remember after the election in '08 I was excited and hopeful for the future and didn’t even \*consider \*attacking my conservative friends and family on social media, at family functions, etc. I don’t think I even did it on this here semi-anonymous message board. I mean, why continue attacking? (Example: I had a cousin post something on FB genuinely asking for conservative friends and family to explain something. I was floored how aggressive our conservative uncles and cousins got, and how quickly. My cousin who posted the original question wasn’t attacking, but immediately, Republican Trump supporters came out of the woodwork with “libtard” and “lamestream liberal media” and “crybaby losers.”) > > But right now, I can’t tell you how many posts on FB have been from right-wing friends who just keep on punching. Or how many shared stories are just complaining about socialists or Muslims or Mexicans or abortion-loving feminists or Hollywood or the media or DemocRATS or our nation’s intelligence agencies or scientists or Hillary Clinton. > > There’s just so much anger out there…from the fucking winners, for pete’s sake. Are they just that scared of everything that they have the need to continuously lash out? It’s anger addiction. People like the adrenaline rush and the feeling of self-righteousness. After eight years of near-constant outrage, they’re so hooked they can’t do without it. (I don’t think this is a partisan phenomenon at its roots, but rather a biological one; there are outrage addicts on the left as well. But right-wing media and politicians have a greater tendency to stoke and institutionalize it; Obama, for example, COULD very easily have run an anger-driven campaign in 2008, but mostly didn’t.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-genuinely-hate-people-still-calling-for-hillary-to-be-jailed/774182.md?page=2)