# I Think I Just Saw Trump's Winning Campaign Slogan **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 22, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229 "2019-12-22T06:16:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/1 "2019-12-22T06:16:44Z")
**They are not coming for me. They are coming for you. I am just in the way.** [Link](https://imgflip.com/i/3bykcn) Damn. I just read the latest Andrew Sullivan column. (I cannot find it at the moment.) Somehow that lead me to the meme above. Damn. I think this is a winning idea. Sullivan laid out very clearly how a lot of Americans feel ill-used and ignored. Trump tapped into that. If any of the other Republicans had pulled the stick out of their butt they could have won with his message of long-simmering humiliation. Sullivan did not take the next step however by pointing out that President Trump pandered to and betrayed their base just the same as Nixon, Reagan, Bush and all the others. Still, that is a darn fine slogan. I think it will work. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/2 "2019-12-22T13:32:49Z")
The counter to that, which of course can not be demonstrated until after THEY get Trump, is: Look- They got Trump, seemed satisfied, and never did come for you after all. Again, that wouldn’t counter the con as it was being run by Trump, which is a useful feature in your idea, but would be effective after. Con men know more about this stuff than I do. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/3 "2019-12-22T17:16:11Z")
Unfortunately, it probably WILL work. But that says more about the mental capabilities of most of the people (lizard brains) in his “base” than it does anything else. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/4 "2019-12-22T17:24:29Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The counter to that, which of course can not be demonstrated until after THEY get Trump, is: Look- They got Trump, seemed satisfied, and never did come for you after all. > Again, that wouldn’t counter the con as it was being run by Trump, which is a useful feature in your idea, but would be effective after. Con men know more about this stuff than I do. I think you utterly missed the meaning. The SJW agenda is “coming after” the Trump loyalists and it will continue after they “get” Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/5 "2019-12-22T18:35:28Z")
Who, specifically, is likely to be persuaded by this slogan who isn’t _already_ a committed Trump voter? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/6 "2019-12-22T18:53:48Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > Who, specifically, is likely to be persuaded by this slogan who isn’t _already_ a committed Trump voter? Definitely directed at his core but it might be persuasive to some of the “burn it down” types who might be currently backing say Sanders or Gabbard. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/7 "2019-12-22T18:58:24Z")
I also thought that slogan was well-executed, if thoroughly despicable. In terms of propaganda, it’s pretty good. As far as who will be motivated by it, I dunno. Both parties have their solid base and are fighting over the “don’t bother to vote” contingent. This might move some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/8 "2019-12-22T20:00:02Z")
I would have gone with **"I’m not Donald. I’m his identical twin brother Daniel Trump. I’m the good one."** It’s a long shot but I think it’s the best one for avoiding Trump’s biggest liability. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/9 "2019-12-22T21:22:32Z")
Who will that kind of message reach? Disaffected people in the middle of the country who see Washington as the enemy, but who don’t particularly care about the minutae of politics. The Democrats are going to have the same problem as the Liberals in Canada. The zeitgeist on the left at this time is all about climate change and big city politics. But those policies are destructive in places like Wisconsin, the Dakotas, and other places that have boom economies based on fossil fuels. In the last election in Canada, the Liberals were completely wiped out in Saskatchewan and Alberta, as well as rural and small town regions in Ontario, Quebec and BC. Canada’s concentration of population in the regions they took allowed them to survive with a minority government. The Democrats in the U.S. don’t have that luxury. In the last debate, Joe Biden didn’t hesitate to say that he would destroy hundreds of thousands of oil and gas jobs for climate change. He then said there would be new ‘green’ jobs to replace them, but that’s a fantasy. Alberta’s NDP promised the same, and all we got were the job losses. Elizabeth Warren says she’ll shut down fracking and offshore drilling on her first day in office. I guess she doesn’t need any votes between the coasts and a few big cities, because talk like that will ensure she doesn’t get any. That’s who Trump’s meme is going to affect. Democrats better look hard at what happened to the Liberals in Canada and Labour in the UK, and start moderating their extreme positions. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/10 "2019-12-23T00:37:38Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The zeitgeist on the left at this time is all about climate change and big city politics. But those policies are destructive in places like Wisconsin, the Dakotas, and other places that have boom economies based on fossil fuels. Yep that is more or less it. Cities have grown ever-larger, they are now so massive that the structural advantages given to rural areas can no longer constrain them. Power is moving from rural areas to city ones and that frightens a lot of rural people. They are angry and scared. That might be enough to swing this election for President Trump. In the long run demographics is destiny. In time the cities will pay back the rural counties in their same coin. No way around it. It will not be pretty. Still, Democrats ought not to push too soon. Give it time before they go whole-hog with some of their policies that upset rural folk. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/11 "2019-12-23T00:43:50Z")
That seems a rather grim and untrue view of the situation. You think there’s no farmers or fishermen worried about climate change? And you paint it as if “the cities” are some cabal awaiting their moment to strike the heart of their sworn rural enemies. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/12 "2019-12-23T01:40:59Z")
I don’t think farmers and fishermen are worried as much about climate change than they are of the policies of a hostile government. Getting back to Alberta, I’ll point out fhat what’s already been done to our economy is likely worse than what climate change would do over decades. In fact, being a northern landlocked province it’s entirely possible that we would benefit from moderate warming. But federal climate policy has gutted our ability to get oil to market, killing tens of thousands of jobs and putting the province in recession. Calgary has a 30% downtown vacancy rate as many oil and gas companies left. Alberta went in 5 years from having the lowest unemployment in Canada to the highest. And for what? Canada is a blip in the global warming numbers. The coal plants we shut down and the oil we stopped shipping doesn’t even match a few months of \*increase in fossil fuel energy in China. And yet, even that is ripping apart Canada. There is now a serious western separation movement building in western Canada over this. And yet, what the Democrats are promising would be far more extreme. Consider Warren’s promise to end fracking. According to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, fracking has already created 1.7 million jobs in the U.S., and will create 3.5 million more by 2030. [Cite.](https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/us-chamber%E2%80%99s-fracking-job-boom-behind-numbers) Elizabeth Warren’s plan pretty much sounds like ‘they are coming for you’. Add up all those fracking jobs, plus the families and friends of the people in them, and Warren would be directly and very negatively affecting maybe 10 million people or more, plus all the fax revenue, etc. And that’s just one small part of her grand collection of plans for other people’s lives, all of which will destroy jobs and the economy in general. No one buys the ‘green jobs’ bullshit. And oil patch workers making big salaries would not be happy losing their high paying jobs in favor of installing weather stripping for $15/hr. And if there are new ‘green jobs’, there’s mo guarantee that they would be in regions hardest hit by her policies, or that the people trained in the oil and gas sector would be qualified for them. These are the fears Trump is playing off. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/13 "2019-12-23T06:00:18Z")
Maybe. But if tomorrow he figured he could get more mileage out of scaring us with lean and hungry barbarians from the North…it would be you. Eh? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/14 "2019-12-23T06:10:22Z")
New York Post just ran an article on what the OP is talking about: > **[Donald Trump’s ‘they’re after you’ tweet says it all: Goodwin](https://nypost.com/2019/12/21/donald-trumps-theyre-after-you-tweet-says-it-all-goodwin/?utm_source=reddit.com)** > > On its face, a tweet President Trump sent last week is fairly benign. It doesn’t mock anyone, isn’t personally nasty and hasn’t caused any hair-on-fire controversy. Yet it is powerful in its own wa… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/15 "2019-12-23T07:03:08Z")
[Us vs. them: Trump aiming to use impeachment to rev up base](https://apnews.com/1221d4b055c568daa639663783ffd258) at the AP. > [@](#): > > Using stark “us vs. them” language, President Donald Trump and his reelection campaign have begun framing his impeachment not as a judgment on his conduct but as a referendum on how Democrats regard him and his supporters. > > Mere days from the start of an election year, the White House and its allies are painting Trump’s impeachment on charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress as an effort to undo his 2016 victory and discount the will of the people. > [@](#): > > His campaign believes that anger at impeachment may be the motivation needed to bring out voters who stayed home in the 2016 election but approve of the president and are fed up with the Washington establishment. > > “After three years of sinister witch hunts, hoaxes, scams,” Trump roared during an impeachment-night rally in Michigan, “the House Democrats are trying to nullify the ballots of tens of millions of patriotic Americans.” :rolleyes: It doesn’t even make sense. “House Democrats” can’t do anything more than they’ve already done. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/16 "2019-12-23T07:04:41Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I don’t think farmers and fishermen are worried as much about climate change than they are of the policies of a hostile government. Except farmers are literally holding [large-scale conventions](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/farmers-climate-change-074024) on how to deal with climate change and its effects. But hey, cheer for how things will get better for you with increased global temperatures. Just be ready for all those Mexicans - might want to start on a wall or something. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/17 "2019-12-23T07:28:29Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Getting back to Alberta, I’ll point out fhat what’s already been done to our economy is likely worse than what climate change would do over decades. In fact, being a northern landlocked province it’s entirely possible that we would benefit from moderate warming. So you’re saying this Trump meme is really going to resonate with Albertans. Ok. I guess. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/18 "2019-12-23T08:25:02Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Except farmers are literally holding [large-scale conventions](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/farmers-climate-change-074024) on how to deal with climate change and its effects. That’s a fascinating article, and a hopeful one.But note the _enormous_ difference in the politics and the tone of discussion: The convention described in that article was all about intelligent discussion of practical issues that farmers can do now–better ways to till the soil, planting more ground-cover crops off season. There was ZERO talk about the things that Democrats and big-city elites love to declare: the green New Deal, laying off millions of workers, and proudly decimating rural communities. The Dems need to pay attention; To win back the flyover voters, they need to change their tone dramatically. With the rhetoric they are using now, they are just providing fertile ground for Trump’s fear-mongering. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/19 "2019-12-23T14:02:40Z")
Straight out of David Duke’s playbook. [The Nationalist’s Delusion](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion/546356/) > [@](#): > > Duke’s rejoinder to the ads framing him as a racist resonated with his supporters. “Remember,” he told them at rallies, “when they smear me, they are really smearing you.” ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229/20 "2019-12-23T14:04:48Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > There was ZERO talk about the things that Democrats and big-city elites love to declare: the green New Deal, laying off millions of workers, and proudly decimating rural communities. LOL. Which Dems are declaring that they would proudly decimate rural communities? Got a quote for this nonsense? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-just-saw-trumps-winning-campaign-slogan/845229.md?page=2)