# I Think I Know Why God Doesn't Heal Amputees **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 8, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193 "2012-02-08T15:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/21 "2012-02-08T16:47:46Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > Yes. This is why you will never get to heaven. It is full up with lizards. > And newts. I’m all right, then. I got turned into a newt. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/22 "2012-02-08T16:48:10Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Even if I ignored all that, I would find it bothersome that current and recent events are playing out exactly the way the Bible prophesied. The Jews were scattered to the wind, they became greatly persecuted in WW2, became a nation again, and somehow this tiny nation is the focal point in current events. Way too concidential. I missed those Bible verses when I read the Bible, can you quote them please? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/23 "2012-02-08T16:58:59Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > So if you are asking God to heal an amputee, he are asking him to create out of thin air a part of flesh that is sin corrupted. God can not exist with sin so this just isn’t possible with His nature. If he created the whole of the world and everything in it, then he created sin, too. And if he were so loving and forgiving, he could just, y’know, let that whole tree thing slide. It was a long time ago, Eve was young, experimenting in Eden College… How many generations has it been since then, and we _still_ are supposed to bear the sins of the fathers ? How loving is \*that \*? ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/24 "2012-02-08T16:59:37Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Did you know some lizards can re-grow a lost tail or limb? Are lizards without sin then? > > Do you believe God changed our dentistry at that time we were expelled from the garden of Eden? We don’t have the teeth of a herbivore. > > What, fundamentaly, is the difference? How is creating mechanisms that can lead to birth defects any different from creating them directly? I’m assuming you believe in an omniscient God, able to forsee the consequences of any processes it sets in motion. Going back to the beginning, man’s genetic code was pure which is why there was no danger for brothers and sisters to have sex. Man also lived hundreds of years. But with each generation, the code broke down more, a natural consequence of existing in a physical reality tainted by sin. I do believe that the physical bodies did change. In Gen. 3:16, God states that childbirth will become a lot more painful. This would require a physical change. Study after study shows that our bodies are healed and protected by eating fruits and veggies. Yet, we crave man made processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt. That’s a result of sin affecting the physical body. ---
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/25 "2012-02-08T17:07:06Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Going back to the beginning, man’s genetic code was pure which is why there was no danger for brothers and sisters to have sex. Man also lived hundreds of years. But with each generation, the code broke down more, a natural consequence of existing in a physical reality tainted by sin. > > I do believe that the physical bodies did change. In Gen. 3:16, God states that childbirth will become a lot more painful. This would require a physical change. Study after study shows that our bodies are healed and protected by eating fruits and veggies. Yet, we crave man made processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt. That’s a result of sin affecting the physical body. Exactly, that’s why life expectancy has been plummeting for god\* knows how long. \*Could you send him a text and ask how long exactly…and while you’re at it ask him what’s up with all the kids dying of aids in Africa. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/26 "2012-02-08T17:07:07Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Going back to the beginning, man’s genetic code was pure which is why there was no danger for brothers and sisters to have sex. This doesn’t respond at all to the point about lizards, and I’m pretty sure this theory is not found in the Bible. > [@](#): > > But with each generation, the code broke down more, a natural consequence of existing in a physical reality tainted by sin. Cite that our genetic code is breaking down, please? > [@](#): > > Study after study shows that our bodies are healed and protected by eating fruits and veggies. Yet, we crave man made processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt. That’s a result of sin affecting the physical body. It’s the result of advertising, cheap food, and the fact that our bodies haven’t had time to catch up to changes in our lifestyles. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/27 "2012-02-08T17:08:05Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Study after study shows that our bodies are healed and protected by eating fruits and veggies. Studies show that we need all sorts of foods for their nutritional value. What studies are you referring to, specifically? ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/28 "2012-02-08T17:12:27Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’m all right, then. I got turned into a newt. Damn, so did I, but I got better. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/29 "2012-02-08T17:15:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Studies show that we need all sorts of foods for their nutritional value. What studies are you referring to, specifically? I don’t think he really needs to cite that fruits and veggies are better for you than barrels of Cheez Balls, but the idea that we started craving snack food because of sin is preposterous. “Man made processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt” are a recent invention. Adam and Eve didn’t sit down and eat a bag of Tostitos after they got kicked out of paradise. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/30 "2012-02-08T17:16:08Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Going back to the beginning, man’s genetic code was pure which is why there was no danger for brothers and sisters to have sex. Man also lived hundreds of years. But with each generation, the code broke down more, a natural consequence of existing in a physical reality tainted by sin. That’s not how genetics work; “purity” _is_ the problem, at least when it comes to incest. Speaking very generally, you want genes drawn over time from different sources. It’s when you repeatedly interbreed the same family - when the genetic code is “pure” - that you get problems, because there’s less and less new material to draw from; it’s just the same stuff over and over again. For an example, just look at historical European royal houses. They interbred (through cousins and relations of that level of distance, anyway) like crazy, very much with the intent to keep the purity of royal blood as high as possible. The end result of “genetic purity” isn’t healthy, long-lived humans - it’s [this guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain). ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/31 "2012-02-08T17:16:38Z")
Bronze age goat herding fairy tales and he’s gone and spent time trying to reconcile them with reality. 1. Decaying DNA - go forth and bring evidence of such 1a. Might as well define “decay” as well 1b. For kicks describe the biological mechanism driven by “sin” 2. Explain declining health issues co-incidental to a modern diet and contrast with subsistence diet and equatorial health issues. ---
**Author:** ![AndyLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@AndyLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyLee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/32 "2012-02-08T17:20:43Z")
He doesn’t heal amputees simply because there’s no need to heal them. To say someone who is an amputee is a lesser person is wrong. They are just as good as anyone else. So why do they need to be healed? Everyone has issues? Some people are near sighted, some are deaf, some walk with a limp, everyone has a handle to wear. We all have challanges in life. An amputee is just a challange. Thus there’s no need to heal someone who isn’t wounded in their spirit. The physical body is only temporary only. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/33 "2012-02-08T17:24:59Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think he really needs to cite that fruits and veggies are better for you than barrels of Cheez Balls, but the idea that we started craving snack food because of sin is preposterous. “Man made processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt” are a recent invention. Adam and Eve didn’t sit down and eat a bag of Tostitos after they got kicked out of paradise. What d’you figure the rain of mana was, genius, if not family-sized bags of Funyuns air-dropped by the good old US of A ? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/34 "2012-02-08T17:26:56Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > That’s not how genetics work; “purity” _is_ the problem, at least when it comes to incest. Speaking very generally, you want genes drawn over time from different sources. It’s when you repeatedly interbreed the same family - when the genetic code is “pure” - that you get problems, because there’s less and less new material to draw from; it’s just the same stuff over and over again. I think he’s saying they didn’t have any genetic flaws that could be magnified or worsened by incest. It doesn’t make sense, but there you go. > [@AndyLee](#): > > To say someone who is an amputee is a lesser person is wrong. They are just as good as anyone else. So why do they need to be healed? No one said amputees are lesser people. The thread is about healing their injuries, which can cause all kinds of physical and emotional problems. ---
**Author:** ![sweeteviljesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@sweeteviljesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweeteviljesus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/35 "2012-02-08T17:28:21Z")
> [@AndyLee](#): > > He doesn’t heal amputees simply because there’s no need to heal them. > > To say someone who is an amputee is a lesser person is wrong. They are just as good as anyone else. So why do they need to be healed? > > Everyone has issues? Some people are near sighted, some are deaf, some walk with a limp, everyone has a handle to wear. > > We all have challanges in life. An amputee is just a challange. Thus there’s no need to heal someone who isn’t wounded in their spirit. The physical body is only temporary only. But apparently he heals people with cancer, at least according to the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/36 "2012-02-08T17:29:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think he really needs to cite that fruits and veggies are better for you than barrels of Cheez Balls, but the idea that we started craving snack food because of sin is preposterous. “Man made processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt” are a recent invention. Adam and Eve didn’t sit down and eat a bag of Tostitos after they got kicked out of paradise. I think that claims of studies that show a vegetarian diet will heal you of things that a omnivore diet can’t should be backed up by cites. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/37 "2012-02-08T17:29:52Z")
I also think I know why God doesn’t heal amputees. It’s for much the same reason that Saruman the White doesn’t control the world economy. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/38 "2012-02-08T17:30:40Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think that claims of studies that show a vegetarian diet will heal you of things that a omnivore diet can’t should be backed up by cites. That’d be another claim that calls for a cite, yes. There’s kind of a pile building up. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/39 "2012-02-08T17:31:16Z")
Retcon Religion. ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/40 "2012-02-08T17:31:44Z")
> [@Meatros](#): > > I missed those Bible verses when I read the Bible, can you quote them please? It’s been awhile since I studied it, but there are numerous ones. This website details quite a few that have been fullfilled. > **[10 Bible prophecies fulfilled recently](https://www.therefinersfire.org/recent_prophecy.htm)** Also, zech. 14-2-4 is another verse detailing how many nations are going to fight against Jerusalem. And what has made the headlines lately? Iran vs Israel. Israel is hated by so many nations in that region. Why is this tiny nation in the desert so properous and equally hated? Way too concidential. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193.md?page=3)