# I Think I Know Why God Doesn't Heal Amputees

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 8, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193 "2012-02-08T15:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/401 "2012-02-10T14:03:03Z")

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> [@dorsk188](#):
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> Personally, I don’t believe a word of the Bible until it is supported by external evidence like archaeology or contemporaneous documents. But even if it was 100% fictitious, there is still a moral dimension to how people talk about it. Hannibal Lector is a fictional character, but I would be disgusted by anyone who defended his behavior. It’s not just about whether things actually happened, it’s about how your view of the story reflects on your sense of morality.

There is an entire field of archaeology called biblical archaeology. I guess that is just fiction, and they have NEVER found anything to support the Bible? LOL

Hey if you need evidence, here is my first hit on a google search  
[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/cuneiform\_confirms\_jeremiah.html](http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/cuneiform_confirms_jeremiah.html)  
I’m starting to see that atheists don’t live in the real world. Since a lot of them are sheltered behind college walls, it’s not too surprising.

> [@dorsk188](#):
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> People are supposed to take you seriously when you say things like this:
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> A tribe of people practiced child sacrifice of _some_ of their children (which I don’t condone one iota), so it’s morally justified to kill _ALL_ of their children. Anyone who would refer to any ethnicity as “human garbage” is morally compromised. You go on by endorsing preemptive murder in the form of genocide.

Wow, so you are going to defend a race of men who fricking burned babies alive just to make God look like the bad guy here. Are you serious? When someone demonstrates that level of wickness, they offer nothing to society and don’t deserve to live. And yes, I am pro death penalty.

> [@dorsk188](#):
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> I take back any positive comment I may have made about you in this thread. It’s taking every ounce of my being to keep from flagrantly breaking the rules of this forum again. I respect the spirit of this forum as a place to exchange ideas, not invective, so I do not intend to respond to you again. I recognize it my own shortcoming that I cannot engage with you without becoming emotional, but I also think it’s a waste of effort to try to convince you of your folly. I hope in time you come to recognize the inherent value of human life and the source of true morality.
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> GEEPERS, if you wish to engage me directly, send a private message rather than do so here.

I don’t recall anything being said positive about me here.

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**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/402 "2012-02-10T14:06:34Z")

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> [@Valteron](#):
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> Dear Mr. (or Ms) Geepers: Please consider this my order for a metric tonne of whatever you were smoking when you wrote that OP.

It’s called the Holy Spirit and it’s the ultimate high. Hey Brian Head Welch (ex-Korn guitarist) gave up his meth addiction overnight and experienced the real high. And it doesn’t destroy your life unlike meth.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/403 "2012-02-10T14:30:21Z")

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**GEEPERS** - what’s your take on **Kanicbird** ’s proposal? - Would you agree that believers inhabit a different version of reality where miracles happen, and are obvious, but cannot possibly be perceived by non-believers? (owing to the non-believers living in their own separate, non-miraculous version of reality)

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/404 "2012-02-10T14:51:46Z")

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Ah the beauty of the American Evangelical. The martyr complex, the logical reasoning that resembles the trail of crack addled weasles and, of course, the disdain for higher education. **GEEPERS** , you sir are a treasure trove of cliches and stereotypes.

But how about we discount your particularly thuggish view of god and go back to your OP and answer some of my original questions. Though to be fair **Marley** and others have been asking more recently than I have so I’m willing to wait until you answer their questions.

1. Decaying DNA - go forth and bring evidence of such  
1a. Might as well define “decay” as well  
1b. For kicks describe the biological mechanism driven by “sin”
2. Explain declining health issues co-incidental to a modern diet and contrast with subsistence diet and equatorial health issues.

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**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/405 "2012-02-10T15:15:42Z")

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> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#):
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> Well, let’s see. I’m afraid there’s a problem with your reading of the Bible; namely, it outright says who it is that’s going to fulfil the prophecy being made, and it’s not Alexander, it’s Nebuchadnezzar (presumably [this one](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadrezzar), given the dates of Ezekiel’s and his lives match up, but of course it could be any future Nebuchadnezzar). The prophecy also declares that the city shall never be rebuilt, which it has, and exists to this day.
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> This of course doesn’t necessarily make the prophecy false - perhaps sometime in the future, another Nebuchadnezzar will come and destroy the place, leaving nothing but ruins for all time. But Alexander’s explicitly not the guy who did it - the prophecy is far too specific for it to be him.

Hold up, your original counter was the the Bible prophecies were “too vague”. I provided one with specific details, and instead of admitting you are wrong, you retreat to another prophecy which may appear false on the surface.

The prophecy states that many nations will come against Tyre, not just Nebuchadnezzar.

All that leaves you with is that someone established a small city and decided to give it the same name. The city was obliterated, and you can’t even find any ruins left to what was once a major city. If the city was restored as before, then you would have a solid argument.  
Regardless, this is an example of specific prophecy fullfilled, history backs it up, and you can not deny this fact.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/406 "2012-02-10T15:16:20Z")

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I let this thread go on a lot longer than I normally would have in the hope the OP would stop flitting from topic to topic and dodging questions and post some cites. We’re on page 9 and that hasn’t happened, so I see no reason to continue enabling it. This is locked. **GEEPERS** , if you start another debate on this site, you need to stay on topic and make a serious effort to support your claims.

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