# I Think I Know Why God Doesn't Heal Amputees

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 8, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193 "2012-02-08T15:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/101 "2012-02-08T19:13:23Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Ok folks. I can’t combat some many atheists at once.
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> Gone to lunch for now. lol

I’m curious, do you participate in any other online forums? The reason I ask is because your hand waving dismissal of atheists is very familiar.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/102 "2012-02-08T19:15:18Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Gone to lunch for now. lol

Careful. You don’t want to eat some sinful food, so make sure it tastes awful.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/103 "2012-02-08T19:16:25Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> I thought the big atheist argument was that there has never been a single documented case of amputation healing. Hey if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. At least I’m honest enough to admit that. No big deal. It’s just a theory of mine I had kicking around in my head.

I love how it’s the atheists against the believers instead of the empiricist against the credulous.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/104 "2012-02-08T19:25:11Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Ok folks. I can’t combat some many atheists at once.

Perhaps if you posted some facts and cites…

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/105 "2012-02-08T19:35:52Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Ok folks. I can’t combat some many atheists at once.
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> Gone to lunch for now. lol

You aren’t winning some arguments and falling behind because of the press of countless atheists. You are utterly failing every time.

You shouldn’t pretend that if there were fewer atheists in the thread you would be able to debate them logically.

There is no evidence for God. None. There is no biblical prophecy that is accurate. You can’t logically argue for what you believe, because it is utterly illogical.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/106 "2012-02-08T19:35:57Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Ok folks. I can’t combat some many atheists at once.

Combat? All you’ve done is make unsupported or clearly false claims and then try to argue that you don’t need any support, evidence, or semblance of a coherent thought train. How is that combat?

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> Gone to lunch for now. lol

Sinner.:mad:

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**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/107 "2012-02-08T20:16:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Perhaps if you posted some facts and cites…

Well since I’ve never once seen an atheist admit that a Christian is right on any point, even a fact would be disputed here. What’s the next argument? Sex with multiple partners is not harmful at all?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/108 "2012-02-08T20:20:07Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Well since I’ve never once seen an atheist admit that a Christian is right on any point, even a fact would be disputed here. What’s the next argument? Sex with multiple partners is not harmful at all?

Christians are right that murder is a bad thing. But that isn’t something that only Christians know.

So pretending that you have an argument, but aren’t going to waste it on us, is hardly compelling. It’s exactly the same thing we’d expect if you didn’t have an argument at all.

And sex with multiple partners \*might \*be bad. Especially if the dude is hella big and has no wang control.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/109 "2012-02-08T20:20:27Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Well since I’ve never once seen an atheist admit that a Christian is right on any point, even a fact would be disputed here. What’s the next argument? Sex with multiple partners is not harmful at all?

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/110 "2012-02-08T20:24:01Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [As you wish.](http://uncrate.com/p/2008/11/baconnaise.jpg)

Now \*that \*is sin. Or at least primordial Evil.

[QUOTE=Marley23]  
You’re saying people don’t like salad? Weird that people invented it and eat it every day, then. 😉 But we do favor high sugar and high fat stuff for evolutionary reasons - that stuff tastes good to us because we need it to live. In the bad old days, it was harder to find. Now it isn’t, which makes it much easier to overdo it.   
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I’m not denying there are some salad-enjoying preverts out there. Sick fucks :p.

But I do dispute the assumption that “this tastes good to us because our body needs it”. It looks too much like a just-so story for me to believe it on the merits. Especially considering that people do have varied tastes, and people demonstrably can live without much in the way of high fat or high sugar foodstuff, not to mention we most definitely can live without high sodium. Fish is about as healthy and protein-rich as lean meat, but fish tastes like…well, _fish_. Spices are of a dubious nutritional value if any, but they were always extremely valuable because they make stuff taste so much better. Etc, etc.

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**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/111 "2012-02-08T20:24:25Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Combat? All you’ve done is make unsupported or clearly false claims and then try to argue that you don’t need any support, evidence, or semblance of a coherent thought train. How is that combat?
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> Sinner.:mad:

Nope, I proposed a spiritual explanation, and even admited in the OP that atheists will reject this so why are you asking me for evidence that you’re going to reject anyways? If I had known this forum was predominantly anti-Christian, I wouldn’t have bothered.

The sad reality is most of the posters here are resulting to dodges, half truths, insults, mocking, and outright lies. Typical atheist MO.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/112 "2012-02-08T20:24:41Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Well since I’ve never once seen an atheist admit that a Christian is right on any point, even a fact would be disputed here.

Try it. You’ve made a bunch of claims - not just about God, but about science and evolution - that you should back up. I’m not saying people will accept what you’re saying, but if you want to have an actual discussion, this is what you should be doing.

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> What’s the next argument? Sex with multiple partners is not harmful at all?

I don’t think you’ve earned the right to get this sarcastic in this discussion. But frankly, no, sex with multiple partners isn’t necessarily harmful and eating a burger a month isn’t going to damage your health.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/113 "2012-02-08T20:27:24Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> But I do dispute the assumption that “this tastes good to us because our body needs it”.

I’m not talking about individual preferences in food. We evolved the ability to taste food, and we enjoy sugary foods because the ability to find foods that are high in sugar and gave us energy helped us survive. That’s not a coincidence.

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**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/114 "2012-02-08T20:28:40Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What does that have to do with the topic of this thread?

If I’m going to spend time digging up cites and references, I want to know that the other person is at least willing to consider evidence with an open mind. Otherwise, it’s a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/115 "2012-02-08T20:30:18Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> The sad reality is most of the posters here are resulting to dodges, half truths, insults, mocking, and outright lies. Typical atheist MO.

You’re not allowed to accuse other posters of lying in this forum. Saying they have posted something false (a lie told by someone else, for example), is allowed, but you can’t say the posters themselves are lying. Please don’t do this again.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/116 "2012-02-08T20:31:46Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> If I’m going to spend time digging up cites and references, I want to know that the other person is at least willing to consider evidence with an open mind. Otherwise, it’s a waste of time.

You have yet to offer any evidence. So what makes you think we wouldn’t accept it?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/117 "2012-02-08T20:32:27Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Nope, I proposed a spiritual explanation, and even admited in the OP that atheists will reject this so why are you asking me for evidence that you’re going to reject anyways? If I had known this forum was predominantly anti-Christian, I wouldn’t have bothered.
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> The sad reality is most of the posters here are resulting to dodges, half truths, insults, mocking, and outright lies. Typical atheist MO.

Typical Christian MO.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/118 "2012-02-08T20:37:47Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Well since I’ve never once seen an atheist admit that a Christian is right on any point, even a fact would be disputed here. What’s the next argument? Sex with multiple partners is not harmful at all?

So what you’ve seen becomes dogma for all atheists? How does that work.

In any event, I’ve admitted to Christians that they are right on several points that I have argued. I’m not infallible, after all.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/119 "2012-02-08T20:39:57Z")

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> [@GEEPERS](#):
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> Well since I’ve never once seen an atheist admit that a Christian is right on any point, even a fact would be disputed here.

I’ve not only admitted it in the past, I’ve thanked them for it. If someone corrects my misconceptions they are doing me a favor. I’ve had some interesting and productive discussions with theists on this board before, I don’t think less of people just because they are religious. How someone treats other people is more important to me than their beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-i-know-why-god-doesnt-heal-amputees/612193/120 "2012-02-08T20:42:56Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Actually, it’s pretty much the same answer we’d give: your God cannot heal amputees because he is impotent. He is _weak_. He can’t even bodge together a bionic arm like a human can…

Would that be as weak as the Ukraine in Kramer and Newman’s game of Risk? 😉

While forgiving folks often does not come easily to me, I can forgive just about anything upon a sincere apology.

Unlike the Big Daddy in the Sky friend of the OP, I don’t require someone else to suffer and die for the offense as part of the arrangement.

😛

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