# I think I'd like to kill my stepson

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 12, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599 "2004-04-12T13:58:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/61 "2004-04-14T16:23:27Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> 3rd stage is the young adulthood or teenage years, then it’s more of a mentoring role as you step back and try to let them make mistakes and learn how to live in the real world.
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> There can be no magic chart to show the exact date when one stops stage 2 and begins stage 3.

Fair enough–although in this case, it seems likely to me that this kid still needs step 2. If his parents got divorced when he was twelve, that may’ve upset his life to a pretty significant degree (this coming from a guy whose parents separated when he was thirteen).

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/62 "2004-04-14T16:26:07Z")

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Curses! I even made sure to log out last time before posting – apparently it didn’t take. That was me, of course, not **burundi**.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Gravity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gravity/32/14322_2.png) [@Gravity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gravity)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/63 "2004-04-14T17:38:43Z")

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> [@sezyou](#):
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> There have been times when my stepdaughter has been verbally abusive. I have found that “You or no one else will speak to my wife like that”, works wonders. Throws them offguard, and makes them have to look at their mother in a different perspective.

Yeah, it felt like a punch in the stomach to me. I took it like the man saying it intended it: She’s my wife more than she’s your mother.  
“Show some respect!” - fine.  
“I’ve had about enough of this!” - great.  
Just please don’t _ever_ put it that way. Mind you, this is if it is a stepfather speaking about a mother. I can see that there would be times when it would be appropriate if it were a father talking about a stepmother. In that case, she _is_ your wife more than she is their mother.

I hated going over to my father’s house. Mind you, I love my dad, but there was never anything to do over there at all. Watch TV, read a book, play cribbage. Those were the only options. I was also very aware that it wasn’t my home. I was never comfortable in my father’s house - not becase he or my stepmother did anything to ever make me think that I was unwelcome, but rather that I was thinking, somewhere in the back of my head “I’m not part of their lives.”  
After my mother re-married, my new stepfather made it clear that I wasn’t a part of their lives, either. I spent the next four years as an unwelcome guest in one home, and a burdensome guest in the other (my dad was dirt poor. The four added mouths to feed on ‘visiting weekend’ was money that they didn’t really have. It was never a spoken thing, but it was something that I was always very aware of, and felt very guilty about.)

I guess my point with that is that he might not feel comfortable or at home in your house, and that might contribute to him being on edge, off-balance.

You know, his life with his dad might not be the best, either. Worth looking into, I suppose. He might not realize that asking his mom for rides and such all the time is something that he shouldn’t do. That’s up to her to set boundries.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/64 "2004-04-15T02:25:11Z")

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So instead of saying, “You will not talk to my wife that way,”, how about, “You will not talk to your mother that way in MY house?”

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Serpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@Silver\_Serpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Serpentine)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/65 "2004-04-15T06:05:27Z")

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My parents divorced when I was 10. They’ve both remarried.

My mom remarried to C when I was 14. I like him, but it’s more a sort of “he’s a pleasant guy to be around.” He’s not a replacement dad for me (but is for my sister, who’s 5 years younger than I am). He never tried to parent me - that was always my mom’s job. He’s a quiet, occasionally silly guy. Not extrovertred, kind of naive, sweet. Because he never tried to parent me, I never resented him for “trying to take my dad’s place.” I get the feeling that he’ doesn’t think of me as his child, but he still respects me and will help when I ask (“Hey C, can you help me build this?”). I’m okay with that, because that’s how I feel toward him. We understand each other’s boundaries, and respect them. I don’t have any bad stories of him, but do have one or two pleasant ones (My mom tossing at oven mitt at him from across the kitchen, his tasty steaks from the grill, the time he drew an eye on a water bottle lid and held it over an eye with his face muscles).  
My dad remarried in 1999 or 2000, to K. I don’t like her. She’s extroverted, likes to play pranks, tells dirty jokes, and tried to parent me. I’ve only met one of her children (my step-sis), and I don’t want to be like her. She’s the kind of girl who takes after her mom by being the type to scream at someone when she gets angry. I get the feling that I’m her husband’s daughter, and that’s it. She’s not helpful, she doesn’t respect me. When someone doesn’t like you, you can tell.

I got food poisoning when I lived with my dad and K for a short while. I was absolutely miserable and thought I was going to die (well, at the time, you know how it is). I hadn’t puked in a decade, so I didn’t know where the Pepto was. Cody woke her up to ask (she works 3rd shift as a nurse, and my dad was at work). She bitched him out for waking her up. After that, he had to rummage through the house to find clean blankets, since I’d puked all over mine. Cody went to the store to get a specific kind of soup (Healthy Choice Chicken Noodle), since it was all I thought I could stomach. When I finally feel well enough to walk, about 12 hours later, I go to the kitchen to eat my soup, K (who does all the grocery shopping and thus should know that she buys store-brand soup and NOT HC) had eaten my soup for supper. When I asked her why, she yelled at me for “not labelling my can.” It had been in the cabinet for about 3 hours. I started just sobbing, then got dressed to go to the store to get more soup. I’d been puking for about 10 hours, on and off, falling asleep only to wake up 10 minutes later to puke. I was exhausted, dehydrated, and starving. She doesn’t offer to make me anything else. I had to drive 20 minutes to the store in this state. All I got before I left was, “are you good to drive?” from my dad. “No.”  
So, I guess what I’m trying to say, is that if you don’t like the kid, I’m SURE he can tell. I could, and still can. He sounds a lot like me (well, except that I’m 20 and don’t make my mom cry), and extroverts and introverts don’t always get along. He might resent how well you and his siter get along, like you “picked” her. Doesn’t make sense, but when I was 16, I felt like anyone who was athletic and out-going would always be favored, and I never would be because I wasn’t like that. Seeing his step-dad take an interest in his athletic sister might “prove” that to him.

How’d the custody thing happen? Cause there’s that idea that “preppy” folks are favored in your part of the family, while geeks are merely tolerated. There’s a lot of insecurity at 16, and if he spends all day at school being “not as good” as the preps, then to go to his mom’s and feel the same way, that can be shitty.

Or he might not want to go over there because it’s boring. How far away is it? If he’d rather spend weekends with his friends gaming, but is being “forced” to visit his mom, that could make him resentful. I know he doesn’t have chores at his dad’s, but does he have a lot at his mom’s? He could feel like he’s being used as a workhorse. “Great, you’re over for the weekend. While you’re here, mow the lawn, do the dishes, and clean the bathroom.”

Whatever the excuse, I do think that your mom and him (and quite possibly the father, too) should have a few sessions of counseling. Or maybe the son by himself. But don’t be like, “Why are you making your mother cry? We need to figure out what’s wrong, so we’re going to counselling.” More like, “We know this is hard on you, and we think we should all go to counseling and work out this new situation together.”

I’m just tossing out ideas, since I was a teen not so long ago, and have two step-parents.

Maybe he’s just an ass. I don’t really have enough info to know what’s going on.

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**Author:** ![Gravity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gravity/32/14322_2.png) [@Gravity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gravity)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/66 "2004-04-15T12:09:43Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> So instead of saying, “You will not talk to my wife that way,”, how about, “You will not talk to your mother that way in MY house?”

Well, I think that would imply that it was not their house as well, but like I said, I’m sensitive about that sort of thing and my stepfather was abusive.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2004, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/67 "2004-04-15T12:39:41Z")

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Beautiful post, **Silver Serpentine**! You could almost exactly be describing my relationship to my parent’s SOs. One quick nitpick, though:

> [@Silver Serpentine](#):
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> I know he doesn’t have chores at his dad’s

I’m not so sure we DO know this. **Plnnr** said in the OP

> [@](#):
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> is 16 and has no interest in getting his driver’s license, has never had a job, and, evidently, is not required to perform any sort of chores around his dad’s house

“Evidently” in this context may mean, “I’m making a wild guess here.” If the OP actually had evidence, the word “evidently” would’ve probably been omitted. My guess is that the kid is reluctant to do chores on his weekends at mom’s house, and **plnnr** is drawing conclusions.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![CaptGarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@CaptGarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptGarf)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/68 "2004-04-16T05:34:42Z")

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> [@faldureon](#):
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> I see that most people think that the OP has a generally correct outlook on the matter. I beg to differ.  
> Two people get together and start having children without even knowing if they can maintain a marriage or not. Then they go through a divorce, and I am under the impression that these are always worse on the children then on any other side involved. And then surprise surprise one of the kids tries to do things to hurt his mother. Well who thought that would happen?  
> Now why doesn’t he play nice and try to work it out like the rest of you? Well he does not have to, its not his duty, his parents wronged him by their inability to provide a steady family no matter what. Can’t do it - don’t have children; very simple really.  
> It might be a brat thing to be doing but he has the liberty and the license to do it because when the only people in the world who are truly supposed to care for him put him second and their differences first that hurts more then anything a teenager can do to a reasonable adult.  
> The only reason you would have to complain is if his father gets any less of it then his mother does, but I gather you do not know if that is the case or not.

Garbage. As a child of divorce, splitting up was the best thing my parents ever did for my psychological well being. The stress of thier disfunctional relationship was causing severe (migrane level) headaches through at least a year of elementary school. I haven’t had one of these since the divorce.  
I’m also still close to both my parents and steps and never felt any resentment toward the steps at all.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-id-like-to-kill-my-stepson/239599/69 "2004-04-21T02:40:16Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> **Plnnr** , can you offer any specific examples of this kid’s bad behavior?

Well, can you?

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