# I think it's bullshit that the Positive abortion news of the day thread was closed.

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**Created:** [September 6, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773 "2019-09-06T05:17:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/61 "2019-09-06T18:16:25Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> Likely the gun thread discussion made the poster in question think of? It was mentioned by title and description fer cripes-sake. 😉 Look, I will agree that its more being a jerk than being a troll MAYBE but -------- isn’t that really what a warning is for? “OK, we’re talking circumstantial but consider yourself notified” in a sense? Nope; I would let the warning stand. And were it me I doubt I would mind it very much.
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> It took a bit but I think the end result came out about where it should; thread opened and all of us a little smarter.

What’s wrong with one thread inspiring another thread, as long as the topic of discussion is legitimate?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/62 "2019-09-06T18:21:10Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> The topic itself is fine. If someone wants to start a topic about their positive experiences with abortion, and only positive experiences, I don’t have a problem with that.
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> The problem with this particular thread is that it is titled “Positive abortion news of the day”, so it is clearly a take on the Positive Gun News of the Day thread. What does abortion have to do with gun control? Absolutely nothing. The only thing they share in common is that they are both hot-button issues with highly polarized beliefs on either side.
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> The fact that HMS Irruncible chose to post such a controversial topic, and relate it to the gun control thread, all at the exact same time that this is being hotly discussed in ATMB is far too much of a coincidence to be innocent. It is not an unrelated, innocent thread.

Well, okay, not “innocent.” But I don’t see how that makes it trolling.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/63 "2019-09-06T18:38:33Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Well, okay, not “innocent.” But I don’t see how that makes it trolling.

The thread was totally innocent. It was certainly not _naive_ to what’s going on elsewhere. But it wasn’t a callout of anyone or anything outside the thread.

There was no side point to it. The adverse mod action makes the point that certain topics and posters are entitled to good-faith assumptions that other topics aren’t. I didn’t make that point; ecg made that point when he chose to intervene.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/64 "2019-09-06T18:49:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Moderator Note
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> While this thread may not have been started with honest intentions, it is a valid topic. It is therefore re-opened.

Moderator double downs. (and the hurricane was indeed headed for Alabama…)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/65 "2019-09-06T18:57:21Z")

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Moderators (and admins!) need to mod with their fingers outside the trigger guard. This warning was given hastily and with little allowance made for any misunderstanding of intent. It should be rescinded.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/66 "2019-09-06T19:03:56Z")

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**Moderator Action**

After consideration of **HMS Irruncible** ’s comments and the comments of others in this thread, I have decided to rescind the warning.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/67 "2019-09-06T19:09:13Z")

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I see the thread is re-opened and the warning is reversed, so I appreciate that consideration.

Realistically, I don’t see that thread being viable after the sidetrack, and I probably won’t start another similar thread being that I still don’t fully understand what is OK or not for this format.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/68 "2019-09-06T19:11:34Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> **Moderator Action**
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> After consideration of **HMS Irruncible** ’s comments and the comments of others in this thread, I have decided to rescind the warning.

Glad to hear this. Yet another sign that the moderation staff is flexible and willing to listen to disagreements.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/69 "2019-09-06T19:15:12Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Everyone’s posts were sincere except the one guy determined to bring the threadshitting and rules-lawyering.

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> The only person in that thread who was _anywhere near_ trolling was **manson**.

Sorry about that. I too thought it was a joke thread. No disrespect to those with personal stories regard abortion.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/70 "2019-09-06T19:17:10Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> **Moderator Action**
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> After consideration of **HMS Irruncible** ’s comments and the comments of others in this thread, I have decided to rescind the warning.

Excellent decision; thank you.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Glad to hear this. Yet another sign that the moderation staff is flexible and willing to listen to disagreements.

I whole-heartedly agree and am also very pleased that the Mods here are as receptive to criticism as they are; I know that isn’t the case in many places online.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/71 "2019-09-06T19:19:11Z")

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Now that there is some resolution on the main topic of this thread, I wanted to comment on this:

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Meanwhile, friendly reminder …

This is anything but. What it is, is [your second attempt](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21842114&postcount=98) in an unrelated thread to bring up an item that you disagree with. It’s a hijack, and repeated bringing up the same item across multiple threads can also be considered spam.

First, you’re going to have to accept that the moderation team does not often agree with your assessment of what constitutes trolling. Second, I recommend you don’t continue to attempt to rehash unrelated topics across multiple threads.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/72 "2019-09-06T19:27:10Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> **Moderator Action**
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> After consideration of **HMS Irruncible** ’s comments and the comments of others in this thread, I have decided to rescind the warning.

That’s why you’re one of my favorite mods, **e\_c\_g**. You keep an open mind and are willing to reconsider your mod actions.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/73 "2019-09-06T19:35:10Z")

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Thanks again to ecg for reconsidering. Are we good to close here?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/74 "2019-09-06T19:42:19Z")

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As the OP, yes, I agree that this thread has served its purpose.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/75 "2019-09-06T19:44:10Z")

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Wait! Not yet, I want to get in and thank ECG for rescinding the warning. Did I make it?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/76 "2019-09-06T20:51:35Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> That’s why you’re one of my favorite mods, **e\_c\_g**. You keep an open mind and are willing to reconsider your mod actions.

I fully concur. It’s not easy making these decisions on countless posts and threads day after day, and it’s pretty much impossible to always make exactly the right call. A good mod isn’t measured by perfection, but by being fair and open-minded.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-bullshit-that-the-positive-abortion-news-of-the-day-thread-was-closed/839773/77 "2019-09-06T21:03:41Z")

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**Moderator Action**

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> As the OP, yes, I agree that this thread has served its purpose.

Ok. Closed.

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