# I think it's time to embrace women not shaving

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 10, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163 "2015-11-10T03:17:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/41 "2015-11-10T17:54:33Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I’ve never had the slightest problem if a woman didn’t shave. It has zero effect on how attractive they are.

My first wife didn’t shave her arms or legs. I was fine with it. My current wife shaves everywhere. I’m fine with it.

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**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/42 "2015-11-10T17:57:54Z")

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> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> Men have penises as well, but most men don’t find them attractive on women. That doesn’t mean that those men think their own body is gross.

“not attractive”=/=“ew, gross!”

And really, that’s my problem with it, because some men do say things like “gross!” as shorthand for “I’m not attracted to that woman.” Which is fairly horrible. “She was hideous!” No, she wasn’t. She was a normal looking woman who didn’t give you a boner. Calm down with that shit.

Anyone who says, “Ew gross!” in response to a woman with a penis also gets a mark against them in my book.

For the record, I don’t like it when men are called things like 'disgusting, gross, repulsive" when what the speaker actually means is, “unattractive,” or even, “socially off.”

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/43 "2015-11-10T19:29:29Z")

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Hell, I even shave the peach fuzz that grows on my arms. I just prefer things nice and smooth.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/44 "2015-11-10T20:16:46Z")

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Maybe I’ll check out the pics when I get home later, but in general:

Pubic hair is good. I’d almost say necessary. If it’s a thick, black, three-inch jungle, maybe trim it a little, but I really would rather not see it go away entirely.

Armpit hair is maybe OK. I’m not really looking at armpits, so it doesn’t matter as much to me. The lighter the hair color, the less it would be an issue. (For example, I’m a guy with sparse and blonde armpit hair. If you see me from a distance on the beach, you might assume that I shave. A girl with the same configuration would not need to shave in my book.)

Leg hair is better off gone. I suppose it wouldn’t be a deal-breaker if my wife announced her intent to stop, but it would take some getting used to. Maybe I’d ask her to start wearing dark hose.

Arm hair shaving I thought was only for swimmers. Honestly, I’ve never seen a woman with enough arm hair that I thought it would be shaved… maybe those women are already shaving? Overall, I say keep it unless you keep being mistaken for a man.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/45 "2015-11-10T20:33:53Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> It’s a peculiar thing, the body hair obsession, as it brings up a lot of nature vs. nurture questions about what we find attractive. I mean, female gorillas are pretty damn hairy, and I doubt that’s ever deterred a male gorilla who wanted to mate with one. Yet most of us, including myself, find the natural body hair of many (yet not all) _h. sapiens_ disagreeable and possibly even repulsive. That _has_ to be conditioned, as it wouldn’t make any sense otherwise.
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> Although it’s also strange how much natural variation there is in humans vs. other primates. The fact that we have so much less than the rest probably suggests we’ve been evolutionarily selecting for less and less body hair (in both sexes) for quite some time now.

Female gorillas have the confidence to wear that look and make it work. It’s a rare female human that does.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/46 "2015-11-10T20:38:16Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I’ve never had the slightest problem if a woman didn’t shave. It has zero effect on how attractive they are.

Even one with a mustache?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/47 "2015-11-10T21:04:49Z")

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1. I’ve said this 100 times, merely shaving your vulva does not mean you or your partner has a prediction for very young girls and I wish we would stop categorizing it that way. It’s rude and obnoxious, especially when the people are consenting adults and you are implying one of them is a pedophile. It’s sex. We all like what we like.
2. Personally I think everyone should at least trim their hair. Trim armpit hair, facial hair, pubic hair. It doesn’t have to be shaven but it doesn’t have to be aggressive either.
3. Women are most certainly hairy. We just are accustomed to removing it.
4. If you don’t like a particular woman’s hair, I agree: no need to call her gross. Just say she’s not to your liking and move on.
5. Women, don’t just other women for shaving or not shaving! Just leave them be!

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/48 "2015-11-10T21:07:06Z")

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Eh. There’s way worse things than a bit of leg hair.

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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/49 "2015-11-10T22:06:05Z")

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I prefer seeing my wife unshaven, but she drives me out of my gourd with lust either way.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/50 "2015-11-10T22:15:12Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Even one with a mustache?

[Sometimes](http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/12/ginny-stache.jpg)

[A woman](http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/12/tumblr_ku99k7xSRV1qa3g32o1_400.jpg)

[can make it work](http://www.themakeupgallery.info/images/lookalike/artists/kahlo3.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/51 "2015-11-10T22:32:07Z")

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Only with the prior consent of these women. Otherwise, please don’t be embracing anybody.

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**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/52 "2015-11-10T23:07:46Z")

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Human armpit hair and pubic hair is kinda gross, smelly, and unfortunate looking on everyone IMO. However I’m far too lazy to do anything but hack mine down maybe 2-3x a month. It looks and feels less repulsive when it’s not long and straggling. Also shaving my legs is a good exfoliater.

Men don’t seem to care much and if they do I tell them to shut up. I date a lot younger than the crowd at the SD though. Young women not shaving anything is pretty common these days.

‘Erotic’ my hairy ass…

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/53 "2015-11-10T23:20:24Z")

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Hairy asses is where I draw the line on female body hair. I just can’t do hairy asses.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/54 "2015-11-11T00:07:30Z")

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I like the bare look. Scalp, eyebrows and eyelashes are the only hair I want to see on a woman.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/55 "2015-11-11T00:15:37Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I like the bare look. Scalp, eyebrows and eyelashes are the only hair I want to see on a woman.

Most ironic screen name/post ever!

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/56 "2015-11-11T00:29:21Z")

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I did not find their unshaven bits attractive.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/57 "2015-11-11T00:32:46Z")

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In the winter, when the temperature is down into freakin’ freezing levels and the humidity level is about 1%, I fight eczema. No matter how many humidifiers I have, or how short and cool the showers are, my skin gets itchy and wicked dry. Shaving really irritates that, so I take advantage of the season of tights and boots to say the hell with it, and quit shaving for a month to six weeks. I figure that weeping, itchy, raw skin is more unattractive than some leg hair. I figure anyone who I like enough to be having sex with, will understand that and prefer my skin intact, too.

Weirdly, I have about eight total underarm hairs, so that’s a non-issue.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/58 "2015-11-11T00:34:33Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Most ironic screen name/post ever!

Yeah, I’ve heard that before in threads like this. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chicken\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Chicken\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicken_Fingers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/59 "2015-11-11T05:02:25Z")

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It looks nice to me. But then I was born back in the olden days, and have been around the block a few times. Different parts of the block, people style their body hair and foreskins differently. My preference is the more natural style. At the same time, I don’t prefer overall hairiness, where the person looks like they’re wearing a sweater and woolly trousers.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-its-time-to-embrace-women-not-shaving/737163/60 "2015-11-11T05:19:11Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Actually, some chicks are hairy- as has been proven.  
> No women would ever need to shave, it would be a non-issue, if your assertion that “chicks ain’t” had any grounding in reality.

I didn’t mean it biologically, I meant it culturally. And just like every other one gets to, I embrace & love my modern, Western, post-agricultural, slim & body-hairless females culture\*!\*\_\_\_😃

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