# I think John Mayer is a Doper....affirmations from his recent concert.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 25, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497 "2003-08-25T12:40:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/41 "2003-08-26T16:57:06Z")

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If Mayer is a Doper, there goes the neighborhood.

Who next Jason Mraz?

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/42 "2003-08-26T17:20:35Z")

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> _originally posted by qiddershins_  
> Who next Jason Mraz?

If Scott Stapp joins, he should be confined permanently to the pit; it’s the only place he’ll be required.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/43 "2003-08-26T18:16:10Z")

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Who _is_ Jason Mraz?

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**Author:** ![Breezy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@Breezy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Breezy)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/44 "2003-08-26T18:34:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ArchiveGuy \*  
> \*\*Who _is_ Jason Mraz? \*\*

He’s that guy that sings “The Remedy.” I’m not sure if that’s the actual title, but it is repeated about a billion times in the song, and it stays in your head for weeks after you hear it.

Not a bad song, just one of the pesky ones I end up singing in my head all day…

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**Author:** ![roadrunner70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@roadrunner70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roadrunner70)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/45 "2003-08-26T18:47:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Knowed Out \*  
> \*\*  
> I  
> I got an e-mail from Rodney Dangerfield himself thanking me for the comment! \*\*

[sub]I can’t believe he bought it…[/sub] 😉 😃

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**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/46 "2003-08-26T19:17:30Z")

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I went to the Counting Crows/John Mayer show when it was here at the Nissan Pavillion. I left after the Counting Crows played because John Mayer is HORRIBLE so I don’t know if he said anything about Opal then

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**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/47 "2003-08-26T19:44:53Z")

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Opal?  
You may want to check out “Wild Cowboy Burt” on Frank Zappa’s 1971 recording of “200 Motels”.  
I always sang it to myself when I first started seeing “Hi Opal” turn up when I first came here.

last lines:

(HE’S LONESOME COWBOY BURT,  
A–don’tcha get his feelin’s hurt)  
Yeah . . . but come on in this place,  
An’ I’ll buy you a taste,  
'N you can sit on my face–  
Where’s my waitress?  
OPAL, YOU HOT LITTLE BITCH!

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**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/48 "2003-08-27T01:20:12Z")

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Phlosphr, how did your wife get tickets for that concert at the last minute? I kept hearing it was sold out. I would have liked seeing the Counting Crows, and John Mayer is pretty good too…

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/49 "2003-08-27T04:08:55Z")

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I’d never heard of that song in my life until _yesterday_ when someone posted [this thread](http://fff.fathom.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=14884)… weird synchronicity…

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/50 "2003-08-27T04:58:18Z")

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Yesterday… all my Opals seemed so far away…

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/51 "2003-08-27T07:34:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zeldar \*  
> \*\*This raises an issue I have thought about often.
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> Just how would Dopers feel if it turned out that many of us are the celebrities who get dissed and abused as much as they do?\*\*

Personally, I post on the D&D boards at WotC’s website. I frequently rag on RA Salvatore, Ed Greenwood, and Dennis Cramer (and even, occasionally, Tony DiTerlizzi, though that’s heresy there).

There’s a good chance at least one of them reads those boards. And…I’m not really sure I care, one way or the other. I’m not going to feel guilty for giving my honest opinion of their work, but I don’t enjoy the idea I might be contributing to their feelings being hurt.

Same goes for this board, only it’s less likely anyone I might rag on here reads it.

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/52 "2003-08-27T10:06:51Z")

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Who Jason Mraz is has already been explained but I usually refer to him as this year’s version of Tal Bachman. A young male singer with an annoyingly catchy song that is fairly popular but you will be hard pressed to remember the singer or the song a year from now.

Mayer seems to have escaped this fate, but I wonder if he won’t turn out to be like the Spin Doctors. Hugely popular for one album with at least two hits, but in a couple of years you will be hard pressed to find any one who will admit to once liking him and his album will clog the “M” section of used CD stores nationwide.

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/53 "2003-08-27T12:28:53Z")

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I know many of the WotC authors read that board, **Tengu** , and I think I’ve seen RAS’s posts, though I can’t swear to it. The FR Novels forum is the one with the most authors in it, from what I’ve seen (all of the WotSQ authors and Elaine Cunningham are quite frequent posters).

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/54 "2003-08-27T13:28:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by roadrunner70 \*  
> \*\*[sub]I can’t believe he bought it…[/sub] 😉 😃 \*\*

Hey, I was suspicious at first, but the mail path didn’t go to an AOL address or anything like that. It was his own web site domain address.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/55 "2003-08-27T14:39:09Z")

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**Zazie** - she got them from a friend…we all went up together. **tramp** - I like John Mayer, it was that _ **sweaty** _ bastard in Counting Crows who was singing all those depressing a songs that was the problem in my eyes. 😉

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/56 "2003-08-27T14:53:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dantheman \*  
> \*\*Yesterday… all my Opals seemed so far away… \*\*

Yeah pretty far away at the other end of the couch 😜

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/57 "2003-08-27T14:57:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by OpalCat \*  
> \*\*Yeah pretty far away at the other end of the couch 😜 \*\*

Thankfully, I had a seven-year-old to protect me.

Viva la Dan!

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**Author:** ![smoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@smoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smoke)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/58 "2003-08-27T16:14:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Phlosphr \*  
> \*\*No I’m not John Mayer. However, to bait a small hook, some of the doper’s here may know me in the real world for other reasons…🙂 \*\*

Awright- hit me. How might some of us know you? I assume that maybe you have a textbook or other work published that is used at the university level?

-j

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/59 "2003-08-27T17:09:33Z")

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🙂

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**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-john-mayer-is-a-doper-affirmations-from-his-recent-concert/197497/60 "2003-08-27T18:08:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by widdershins \*  
> \*\*Who Jason Mraz is has already been explained but I usually refer to him as this year’s version of Tal Bachman. A young male singer with an annoyingly catchy song that is fairly popular but you will be hard pressed to remember the singer or the song a year from now.
> 
> Mayer seems to have escaped this fate, but I wonder if he won’t turn out to be like the Spin Doctors. Hugely popular for one album with at least two hits, but in a couple of years you will be hard pressed to find any one who will admit to once liking him and his album will clog the “M” section of used CD stores nationwide. \*\*

I doubt that’ll happen. Hidden in the overdone pop production of his debut album, John Mayer’s greatest strength is as a guitar player. He may be the best guitarist on the planet under the age of 30 (opinons vary). If the finicky pop music population tires of him, he’ll always be able to fall back to his roots as a folksier, bluesier, jazzier version of himself. He’s simply too talented musically to ever fall that far from the public eye.

My prediction is that he’ll have a career path much like one of his idols, Sting. His first few mainstream albums will bankroll his future, hopefully giving him the artistic freedom to move away from pop music per se and into something more interesting and challenging.

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