# I think Ron Paul could pull it off

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 15, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343 "2011-12-15T21:37:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/301 "2012-04-03T15:19:35Z")

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Ron Paul the Lyndon LaRouche of the right.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/302 "2012-04-03T16:34:11Z")

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> [@TelecasterLPGTop](#):
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> Ron Paul is clearly ahead but the corporate media are ignoring him and the electoral fraud that is/has been perpetrated against him is holding him back. If he does get to the Whitehouse those who think that they run the show will most certainly attempt to assassinate him, they have too much to lose if he gets in power. All that said, I don’t think the Cabal will still be around. Massive arrests of the criminals within the banking & corporate world are imminent, the whole corrupt game is being brought down. If Pentagon insiders & whistle blowers are speaking the truth about the huge majority within the US military that wants to fix the tattered constitutional republic we’ll see a new USA and World. Let’s hope they are. Who knows maybe Paul will be chosen as temporary leader until they place their house back in order and honest elections are held.

Well. That’s one way to look at things, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/303 "2012-04-03T17:14:07Z")

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> [@TelecasterLPGTop](#):
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> Ron Paul is clearly ahead but the corporate media are ignoring him and the electoral fraud that is/has been perpetrated against him is holding him back. If he does get to the Whitehouse those who think that they run the show will most certainly attempt to assassinate him, they have too much to lose if he gets in power. All that said, I don’t think the Cabal will still be around. Massive arrests of the criminals within the banking & corporate world are imminent, the whole corrupt game is being brought down. If Pentagon insiders & whistle blowers are speaking the truth about the huge majority within the US military that wants to fix the tattered constitutional republic we’ll see a new USA and World. Let’s hope they are. Who knows maybe Paul will be chosen as temporary leader until they place their house back in order and honest elections are held.

The Great Pumpkin **will** rise up out of the pumpkin patch and turn the situation around before Election Day!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/304 "2012-04-03T22:17:49Z")

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Ah, so _that’s_ what the October Surprise is.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/305 "2012-04-03T22:46:39Z")

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> [@Brain Glutton](#):
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> More likely the kind of supporter at whom Paul is constantly biting back an impulse to scream, “Stop helping me!”

Actually, our latest Paul fanboy is not that far outside the “mainstream” of Paul supporters.

And if Paul had a message for his really extreme adherents, it would not be “Stop helping me!” but rather “Hey, can you guys tone it down a bit? But keep sending me dough.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/306 "2012-04-03T22:55:11Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Actually, our latest Paul fanboy is not that far outside the “mainstream” of Paul supporters.

😕 They **seriously** think Paul is a whole lot more popular than the media lets him appear to be?! So much so that he’s actually winning if we knew the truth?! How can that many adults be that fucking delusional?!

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/307 "2012-04-04T01:06:01Z")

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There’s a vast silent majority in favor of Ron Paul. They don’t like talking to pollsters. They don’t like to express their support in the voting booth. And they usually keep quiet about their true preferences. To everyone. Even themselves. Which is why the lizard people are our friends.

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**Author:** ![Niteryder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85f322/32.png) [@Niteryder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Niteryder)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/308 "2012-04-04T09:30:42Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> There’s a vast silent majority in favor of Ron Paul. They don’t like talking to pollsters. They don’t like to express their support in the voting booth. And they usually keep quiet about their true preferences. To everyone. Even themselves. Which is why the lizard people are our friends.

hahahah, so true!!!

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/309 "2012-04-04T12:25:13Z")

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> (like, for example, what the Israelis do to every Palestinian who walks into David Ben Gurion airport).

One of the largest terrorist acts perpetrated in an Israeli airport was by Japanese Marxists.

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> If someone disagrees that black crime is not a uniquely significant criminal issue - regardless of root causes - I’d be interested to know why.

Perhaps it is a significant _criminal_ issue, but there are far more significant domestic issues. If one trusts the study conducted by the Harvard Medical school claiming that 45k Americans die each year from a lack of medical insurance, then three times as many Americans are killed from a lack of healthcare each year than are murdered.

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> Do you not see how an employer’s power is used to coerce sex?

Yes, that is their right as an individual with money. To restrict someone’s right to use their sexuality to further their employment goals is a sexist liberal NWO plot. Their body and their money are their own property aren’t they? They can vote with their money by not purchasing their employer’s products!

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> apparently because the global economy worked so well back in the era before central banks

I don’t think that the GDP of industrial countries can be attributed to the success of fractional reserve banking (there are alternatives btw, including credit unions).

Also, RuPaul would probably need a gynaecologist if they pulled it off.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/310 "2012-04-04T13:43:57Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> I don’t think that the GDP of industrial countries can be attributed to the success of fractional reserve banking (there are alternatives btw, including credit unions).

Perhaps not, but it is a necessary condition.

And credit unions do use fractional reserve banking. The only difference between a bank and a credit union is who owns it.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/311 "2012-04-04T17:02:00Z")

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It occurs to me, if the thing he is going to “pull off” is his own head, after which his headless body will dance an unholy jig while making obscene gestures? I credit that as not just possible but somewhat probable.

If the thing he’s going to “pull off” is an electoral victory, I find that markedly less probable.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/312 "2012-04-04T18:34:45Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> How can that many adults be that fucking delusional?!

If we believe them, a majority.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/313 "2012-04-04T22:25:45Z")

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> And credit unions do use fractional reserve banking. The only difference between a bank and a credit union is who owns it.

Oh, didn’t realise. What about Islamic banks?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-think-ron-paul-could-pull-it-off/606343/314 "2012-04-06T06:26:00Z")

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Wikipedia on Islamic Banking: In theory, Islamic banking is an example of full-reserve banking, with banks achieving a 100% reserve ratio.[30] However, in practice, this is not the case, and no examples of 100 per cent reserve banking are observed.[31] Realize though that in the majority-Islam republic of Pakistan, Islamic Banks have a market share of only 6%. So we’re talking about a niche market. Which I frankly know very little about, though I perceive it to be a gimmick, albeit a rapidly growing one.  
More generally, fractional reserve banking is a cornerstone of capitalism. Some countries (eg Germany) emphasize it more than others (eg the US, which is equity-based). But it’s still a central mechanism of financial intermediation.

Consider private bank loans as a fraction of total output, 2005:  
United Kingdom: 155%  
Japan: 98%  
Mexico: 15%  
Sierra Leone: 4%

Source: Diamond, ed _Natural Experiments of History_, p8.

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